It makes no sense insofar as how could the Earth form flat and the moon form as a globe shape? You've offered no mechanism for why and how these can be different, hence not making sense.
Good to see you back. Lets continue. Not sure I really understand the point you are making, but with an all powerful supreme creator the theory I purport is possible. Again you have even said that common sense is not always reality. I have thought longer about this and you are quite correct.
That's great to hear. Sadly, you're right and there a lot of people who prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and go 'La la la can't hear you' in respect to science.
They are wrong, you should at least listen to science even if you believe it is wrong. My brother and sister are science teachers. Even they concede that evolution is just a theory
To be accurate science hasn't been around for thousands of years. Modern methods which we call science have only been around since the 17th century at the latest.
Come on now Sir - Hippocrates 460BC? this oath is still taken today
Do you think that science should still have the same views as the 17th century? Obviously not. Then why is science changing a bad thing?
OK, it wont do will it. As I said science by its very nature changes with the times. Some can accept this, such as yourself and some cant such as me. I understand your point of view
There are theories which to the best of our understanding explain a fair bit of how the universe works. Scientists carry out research and find new evidence and ideas. These might serve to back up current theories or might challenge them or perhaps go in a completely different direction. If they do, awesome, because it means that we can have another look at our theories and realise that they probably aren't complete. That's all I'm talking about. If you want to be treated with just 17th century medicine, that's up to you.
I understand the point you are making
Again, can you provide any link to something about this? I would be genuinely interested.
Sorry - I must have missed something link to what ? sorry
Is there any evidence for this firmament? What is it made of? Again, you're just presenting some supposition without any scientific evidence.
Most of what I say would have little or no scientific evidence as science is not something I rely on. The bible is the word of God and the firmament is in the bible. History also shows that many ancient civillisations believed in a firmament. I dont have the foggiest idea what the firmament would be made of. Not really essential to my belief that I know what it is made of. I could only speculate. Possibly an inpenetratable material that is unbreakable glass or a flexible style type of glass. Is it so far fetched? Science says there is an ozone layer. This apparently has a hole in it. Or maybe the ozone layer is the firmament and operation fishbowl blew a whole in it. But that really is conjecture on my part and I would not purport this as true!!!
If there is a firmament how do we have space rockets and satellites?
Have you seen any of the satellites live? Have you seen the rockets in outer space or are you relying on what someone you do not know is telling you and calling this scientific evidence?
You can get the most powerful telescope you like, you still won't be able to see the ship once it goes over the horizon. Why? Because of the curvature of the Earth.
A fair point. I cannot refute this point at the moment. I will have to think about that. Possibly the human eye has limitations even with a powerful telescope
Then what speed do you believe (ie think without evidence) that the Earth is spinning at?
I have tried to fathom a spinning earth, really I have but I cant believe the earth is spinning, moving rotating etc.
A fantastic question which is a bit of a head-scratcher at first, but can be explained when understanding that momentum is conserved.
First, a little experiment. Stand up and jump. Now, did the wall of your house splatter into you at 1000mph (exact speed obviosuly depends where you are in the world). No? Good. The reason is that although the Earth is moving and everything on the Earth is moving with it and has momentum. Imagine an observer in a spaceship far enough away from the Earth so it's not moving and they're watching the Earth rotate before them. To their point of view your jump doesn't actually follow a straight line, it follows a parabola. During your little jump your initial takeoff spot is about quarter of a mile away, but the Earth has moved exactly the same amount as well because you were already moving at the same speed as the Earth when you took off.
It's the same idea as if you are in a car travelling down the road at 60mph. If you toss something up in the air, does it shatter through the back window? No, because it it travelling at the same speed as the car and momentum is conserved.
When it comes to planes, it's important to remember that when it's sitting on the ground it has momentum because it's rotating with the Earth. When it takes off we know that momentum has to be conserved, allowing it to fly to its destination without the Earth rotating away underneath it. The atmosphere also (pretty much) rotates with the Earth again allowing the plane to fly.
A plane flying in the same direction that the Earth rotates may actually get to its destination quicker because the atmosphere is rotating in the same direction.
This is about as far as my physics goes before my head hurts!
