No you don't, you said you would hit people for doing something you didn't like.
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I am not comparing myself to anybody.
I agree.
I find that fascinating. My cultural views would call it 'fighting words' in the context you describe!?
Tell me what would you call it when someone does so in the context of a public display to get a point across?
No you don't, you said you would hit people for doing something you didn't like.
I don't care what you think about the flag, you have no right to assault people for doing things you find distasteful.
I guess you missed that post where I admitted that I probably wouldn't?
Hi Variant,
I find it pretty amazing that you use the term '..distasteful..'. I am sure other folk would have similar views!?
To myself I see the burning of the US flag like that in the same way those military folk do.
From a non US citizen looking in it honestly comes across more like anarchists wanting to hate and hurt their country..? If this is just my cultural differences in viewing what I see I am sorry. But am still shaking my head going WOW....
No I read your first post wrong. Sincere apologies.
The very first post definitely mentioned I would punch someone in the face. I guess that is more of an example of how passionate about it. I don't worship the flag, but hold it in high regard as a personal item of great importance. I've been indoctrinated since my youth to hold it with higher regard than regular stuff. Honestly, I've been trying to deprogram it out of my system the last year or so.
See this is a problem, nationalism isn't what this country was founded on, and certainly not violence in the name of nationalism, freedom and coexistence with people who may disagree with us is.People can get violent over the flag. I am not kidding about my friends considering serious harm to you over it. Any sort of flag desecration is the equivalent of someone urinating over a personal item of a deceased relative in outrage. If you burn the flag in front of them, you might as well be burning their home, because that is how they view all flags.
Then I did miss the one that said you probably wouldn't.
I am sincere in my admonishment of the use of violence in defense of ones personal views.
See this is a problem, nationalism isn't what this country was founded on, and certainly not violence in the name of nationalism, freedom and coexistence with people who may disagree with us is.
oh trust me.. they're also big pledge of allegiance supporters as well. I pointed out to them that the pledge was created by a socialist, but they won't hear of it.
I spend a good amount of energy trying to debunk they're paranoia.
This isnt really a controversial political issue that much these days compared to other topics-but its a legal issue people have different opinions on, so discussing it fits into the topic of politics.
In many countries, like in parts of Europe, its highly illegal-and free speech doesnt protect it.
The US Supreme Court has ruled flag burning is legal based on free speech-in a court case years ago. And I agree with them, despite the fact that I find flag burning highly offensive and disrespectful. But the fact that it personally offends me and I disapprove of it morally, doesnt mean it shouldnt be legal. I do believe it falls under free speech rights.
Anybody disagree?
When I moved into my home there were several old flags left behind. I put them in the trash because that is where old rags go. Symbolism is stupid.
hmmm .......... What about the social harm through the fact that society then loses respect for its own country and this is handed down through generations?.....The fact that the thing destroyed has a meaning attached to it doesn't mean that the person who destroyed it did any actual harm.
hmmm .......... What about the social harm through the fact that society then loses respect for its own country and this is handed down through generations?
Not unlike that when a society loses respect for the police force it reacts accordingly? Enough folk losing respect for their own country would have awful outcomes!
When I moved into my home there were several old flags left behind. I put them in the trash because that is where old rags go. Symbolism is stupid.
Oddly enough, that doesn't happen when the country deserves respect.
Blindly supporting the country you were born in just because is what breaks a nation.
What an interesting topic to debate...!?................ it's better not to use social harm as a factor in deciding whether a behavior is legal or not.
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