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I am not approving of the violence. I am pointing out the consequences of their actions.
Burning the flag is an honorable thing to do and folks who think otherwise have the right to that because of the brave men and women who have torched flags throughout history. I hope you can find your way past needing to control people by suggesting obscene laws.
If it was criminal - Freedom of speech would still allow US folk to criticise their country all they want and threaten that they would burn the flag to make a point. BUT the action itself is pretty harmful and should have consequences attached.
I do not disagree.
I also don't think we should be so attached to a symbol that we get bent out of shape when we perceive it has been disrespected.
Do you really think it is honourable to deliberately insulting those who fought and died for the freedom of the USA?
I look at it this way .....
The brave folk you identify are 'brave' because they stand against what is wrong and know full well the likely consequences of the action they take.
BUT there are no consequences to burning the USA flag (it is not criminal).
Dishonourable, cowards within the US burn the USA flag in public to make a statement .... so they can laugh at the families and friends of those who died for the US. Now that is obscene.
If it was criminal - Freedom of speech would still allow US folk to criticise their country all they want and threaten that they would burn the flag to make a point. BUT the action itself is pretty harmful and should have consequences attached.
Have you ever been to a pro-American rally before, especially one full of God-fearing, patriotic, America-loving Christians? Some of them are borderline lunatics when it comes to their patriotic idol worship of America. It's truly disturbing to watch these kind of people interact with each other. It can even be downright frightening some times, especially when you find yourself a target of their vile hatred if you dare criticize America in their presence. You talk about insanity.
Have you ever been to a pro-American rally before, especially one full of God-fearing, patriotic, America-loving Christians? Some of them are borderline lunatics when it comes to their patriotic idol worship of America. It's truly disturbing to watch these kind of people interact with each other. It can even be downright frightening some times, especially when you find yourself a target of their vile hatred if you dare criticize America in their presence. You talk about insanity.
I tend to deliberately avoid these things whenever possible. They make me extremely uncomfortable, actually. Crowds do that in general, but crowds who are in an irrational frenzy over anything make me so nervous that I want to throw up.
You speak the truth. It is funny how these folks worship America and believe that somehow is equivelent with worshiping God. America is nothing but a country, and not a particularly great one at that. Patriotism is the first step to unbridled facism.
I tend to deliberately avoid these things whenever possible. They make me extremely uncomfortable, actually. Crowds do that in general, but crowds who are in an irrational frenzy over anything make me so nervous that I want to throw up.
Crowds are a bummer, crowds with lunatics, well lets not even go there, literally.
You should see the dirty, threatening looks I get when I don't stand with the crowd when the national anthem is being played. Nasty looks. I'm not putting my hand over my heart and pledging my allegiance to a nation like America or to its flag, no way, no how. I would rather die first.
I deliberately went to these pro-American rallies to protest pro-American rallies and to pretty much protest pro-American anything. So, you can imagine that I and the other NDNs (and a few other minorities) who went there to protest against American imperialism were as welcome there as dry rot. I was cursed at, spit at, and had rocks thrown at me. The Christian love was truly overwhelming, let me tell you. And some people wonder why NDNs hate America so much or why so many of them despise Christianity as much as they do.
It's been a while since I went to an event like that. The last time was in Guthrie, Oklahoma and in Oklahoma City during the state centennial in 2007.
I won't pledge to any nation. One of the craziest things I ever heard was after I had gone to an event, and at the begining of the event they honored vets pledged the flag and played the national anthem. After the event my sister-in-law who had been there asked why I hadn't stood.to be honored, I told her in was not proud of waging war and had learned better than to get kudos for it, she having no idea about anything told me how stupid and ungrateful I was. Lol
Sure. iNDiaN.
Have you ever been to a pro-American rally before, especially one full of God-fearing, patriotic, America-loving Christians? Some of them are borderline lunatics when it comes to their patriotic idol worship of America. It's truly disturbing to watch these kind of people interact with each other. It can even be downright frightening some times, especially when you find yourself a target of their vile hatred if you dare criticize America in their presence. You talk about insanity.
What's harmful about it? Hurt feelings?BUT the action itself is pretty harmful and should have consequences attached.
The American flag does not deserve to be honored any more than the country it represents.
The US Supreme Court has ruled flag burning is legal based on free speech-in a court case years ago. And I agree with them, despite the fact that I find flag burning highly offensive and disrespectful. But the fact that it personally offends me and I disapprove of it morally, doesnt mean it shouldnt be legal. I do believe it falls under free speech rights.
Anybody disagree?
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