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Fish who won't evolve.

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TheQuietRiot

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Just a hypothetical question really. You get my point though.

Not really. It reads more like you were quietly asserting your idea that I will exist in some form of afterlife after I die again without giving any reason.

For that matter you never bothered to explain what spirituality has given us and how that is superior to science. Or why I should take the concept of a soul seriously.
 
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Actually it was referring to the afterlife in any form you choose. If you think the afterlife is only a fantasy, then you will only exist in fantasy. Either way, my point remains the same.
 
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Actually it was referring to the afterlife in any form you choose. If you think afterlife is fantasy, then you will only exist in fantasy. Either way, my point remains the same.

What do you think is waiting for you when you die?
 
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Good for you.

God allowed us to grow old quickly, so we would know how short our time is. Like flowers fading and withering, so is our life. The next time you see a flower bloom, remember how short life is.
 
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God allowed us to grow old quickly, so we would know how short our time is. Like flowers fading and withering, so is our life. The next time you see a flower bloom, remember how short life is.

Lets say I'll take it under consideration.

It also seems that there are fast learners as God also doesn't allow some people to grow old at all.

If I make it to 40 I could hardly say I've lived a short life. So it really depends on what you are comparing it too.
 
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Life moves quickly as we get older, decades seem like yesterday. Its all downhill at some point. Then we realize how short it actually is.
 
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You realize that in this analogy, the fish stuck in the water would be able to watch the walking fish leave the water and then come back...thereby giving the fish in the water some proof of their claims.

Seems like your fishing for a decent analogy. Let me know if you come up with anything good.
 
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The greatest of ironies exist among Atheists and scientists, who campaign for evolution, but cannot even conceive evolving themselves or ascending to anything higher than their best organic self.
Ironic that your anti-scientific tirade makes the blunder of having individuals evolve, not populations.
 
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His tribe analogy in #8 fails for the same reason. In all his talk of an "outside world", he offers nothing to substantiate it, other than large, hand-waving motions and wild stories, stories that are not even consistent with others that come through here claiming their own set of wild stories. They can't even agree upon what they are claiming.
 
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Indeed. The problem is that he's trying to find an analogy for an imaginary situation that doesn't exist in reality. As such, the analogies always fall short.
 
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You were just kidding yourself. One who becomes One with God, is One...you are not, and therefore never were.

If you want my straightforward answer, go back and read it. No one is going to drag you up the hill.
 
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