Finally Solved: What is Blaphemy of the Holy Spirit

[visionary]

words/language are a symbol for spirit

He spoke and it was done... doesn't sound symbolic to me.

 

[Noxot]

I mean concerning the nature of speaking slanders. that is symbolic in its meaning. first comes reality, spirit, then comes the effects in our world, soul and flesh.

 

[Hieronymus]

So before the rejection we have the blaspheme of slander which has no forgiveness.

No, the other way around.
Rejection of the Holy Spirit is the premise for slander of the Holy Spirit.
But one can also reject without going out to slander what is rejected.

 

[Noxot]

in the bible God is concerned for 1. spirit 2. soul and then as a third 3. flesh and that is why history and narratives in the bible can be distorted in favor of preserving the deeper parts of it. so the flesh is important but it is not as important as is the inner man. this is why God allows for seeming errors and contradictions in his bible. it is in order to lead one to a deeper understanding as he is our teacher. but the flesh is part of reality and so ofc Jesus takes part of that as well just as we all do.

 

[Extraneous]

The best way to not slander the Spirit is to not slander anything at all. Its better to be quiet rather than blaspheme things we may or may not understand.

 

[Noxot]

The best way to not slander the Spirit is to not slander anything at all.

I agree.

I was trying to find a use for anger but i'm starting to believe that saint seraphim was right in saying we ought not have it. I know it had to some measure helped me in my past but it seems to be an inferior spirit compared to what God freely offers to us. now I have a very great problem in myself with the parts of me that are critical over people for no good reason and the parts of me that feel various other evils to people of which they are almost automatic things that poke at me, so now comes the process of hopefully melting away the evils in me by various spiritual practices. but it is better to see a devil in you than to be unaware of it. i'm starting to see better why God does not like* this or that way of being, they are plain tormenting and disgusting, otherwise God would love it, if it was beautiful.

in time I hope that the tares will be gone, but thanks be to God that I can at least to some measure understand what is good and what is not. now to never be torn by such, if I may keep my sanity...

 

[visionary]

Words spoken are like percussion, long before you hear them, the percussion hits. Often that is why you know what they are going to say. You can "see" it coming.

 

[Extraneous]

I agree.

I was trying to find a use for anger but i'm starting to believe that saint seraphim was right in saying we ought not have it. I know it had to some measure helped me in my past but it seems to be an inferior spirit compared to what God freely offers to us. now I have a very great problem in myself with the parts of me that are critical over people for no good reason and the parts of me that feel various other evils to people of which they are almost automatic things that poke at me, so now comes the process of hopefully melting away the evils in me by various spiritual practices. but it is better to see a devil in you than to be unaware of it. i'm starting to see better why God does not lie this or that way of being, they are plain tormenting and disgusting, otherwise God would love it, if it was beautiful.

As far as anger goes, im surely not guiltless in that. I find it useful to stay away from things that irritate me into anger. No man is perfect, and the one who acts perfect is more than likely just acting. As you say, its better to admit we have fault inside us, rather than to ignore it.

Psalm 4:4 Be angry, and do not sin.
Meditate within your heart on your bed, and be still. Selah

Psalm 37:7 Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for Him;
Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way,
Because of the man who brings wicked schemes to pass.

Ephesians 4:26 “Be angry, and do not sin”:[a] do not let the sun go down on your wrath,

31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. 32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

 

[visionary]

I agree.

I was trying to find a use for anger but i'm starting to believe that saint seraphim was right in saying we ought not have it. I know it had to some measure helped me in my past but it seems to be an inferior spirit compared to what God freely offers to us. now I have a very great problem in myself with the parts of me that are critical over people for no good reason and the parts of me that feel various other evils to people of which they are almost automatic things that poke at me, so now comes the process of hopefully melting away the evils in me by various spiritual practices. but it is better to see a devil in you than to be unaware of it. i'm starting to see better why God does not like* this or that way of being, they are plain tormenting and disgusting, otherwise God would love it, if it was beautiful.

in time I hope that the tares will be gone, but thanks be to God that I can at least to some measure understand what is good and what is not. now to never be torn by such, if I may keep my sanity...

It is a nasty spirit that invades people and leaves them bitter, gloomy, and hard to get along with.

 

[Extraneous]

It is a nasty spirit that invades people and leaves them bitter, gloomy, and hard to get along with.

I suppose there can be something to say about righteous anger.

 

[Noxot]

Words spoken are like percussion, long before you hear them, the percussion hits. Often that is why you know what they are going to say. You can "see" it coming.

the brain is a cool thing to have. some people can't hear as well if they do not wear their glasses. also I noticed that I can think thoughts before I think thoughts. science shows that we think before we think and some argue that that means we don't have a free will ( what a load of bologna). anyways, the eyes are connected to a certain part of the brain that helps it process info faster and so it makes sense that we can process information faster with our eyes than with hearing which then translates what we heard into language and identifies it. ah the brain is a beautiful thing.

so i guess me thinking before I think is translating some more subconscious thing to a more vocal thought. or I dunno everything about the brain, i know the right side is* different than the left even though they work together and communicate with that certain other part of the brain. and each side serves various different functions. i know the brain seems to work via various "sub-personalities"

we really are like a garden or a world.

 

[Extraneous]

Another good scripture i have found helpful.


Psalm 37:8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath;
Do not fret—it only causes harm.

 

[visionary]

It takes brain power to slow down and respond without anger.

 

[Extraneous]

Or perhaps this-

Psalm 1 Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.

 

[Noxot]

it does, and my heart is something i'm still trying to figure out too. the entire body is wonderful, i want it to be one perfect integrated thing for God. i'm hoping that the sexual nature will stop being insane too, because I dunno how to get rid of that but I heard that maybe it could be purified and help push me to better things rather than tormenting me. also I noticed that if I fast that my stomach, or whatever it is that does that, can feel towards God too. the feeling of empty out of love for God is not something I do enough. it is weird how the flesh will often forget the very good spiritual things that i could do. but the higher parts of me deserve to live and the lower parts should die if they won't love God. but sadly i'm not always so aware but I feel that it is bad to just be existing unconsciously, automatically ( like being in empty moments in your life where your brain thinks dumb and useless things and it won't shut up). even if I don't feel anything I know it is because God wants me to be free of everything, but it is hard sometimes because i'm in a world of so many things even though i can feel God in various things sometimes and peoples souls give me pleasure even though i'm not always so loving. and at the same time I have to be a soul, I can't just fade away, I must be for the Lord.

but to judge reality all the way is too hard, better to be completely pure and innocent which I suppose will naturally happen by the rejection of evil, the kingdom of darkness, in myself. I just hate when i don't notice it or when evils seem to occur because of other peoples perceptions of how someone should conduct themselves in the world. ah, loves makes everything so much easier, it is the answer to all problems and the best manner to conduct all of reality. evil is not needed at all, for it's only purpose seems to be to reject it and not be it.

righteous anger... to hate evil and depart from it. but woe to those who love to hate evil and forget to love God. quickly you shall turn into what you hate when you make that what you are about. i know that the Lord craves free love and innocence, I wish we could be so innocent to die for him without any evils grabbing hold of us.

 

[Extraneous]

righteous anger... to hate evil and depart from it. but woe to those who love to hate evil and forget to love God. quickly you shall turn into what you hate when you make that what you are about. i know that the Lord craves free love and innocence, I wish we could be so innocent to die for him without any evils grabbing hold of us.

Jesus didn't depart from it, he instead chased it out of the temple with a whip.

 

[Noxot]

i would not think Jesus is so violent but that he fiercely cast out and ruins the devices of men in his holy place (ourselves). just like the disciples wanted to call down fire from heaven to destroy the unbelievers like they believed Elijah did but Jesus rebuked them and told them that they did not know what spirit they were of and that the son of man did not come to destroy but to save lives.

God destroys our evils. we run to him ( and thus run away from evil) and he cast them out. that is the kingdom of God coming. evil would blaspheme and deny that, the only thing that makes life worth existing over. it is madness. the true nature of humanity is found only in God. when the image of God is defaced in humanity so too is humanity defaced. for we get our life and freedom in God and lose it by cutting ourselves off. for the Son of God is the son of man. we have forgiveness, but those who deny the kingdom have not forgiveness, for they reject it. so we repent by using our freedom to cooperate with Gods grace and in that we find our loving freedom in the liberty of the spirit of the Son of God. evil spirits are the anti of the Holy Spirit, they are confused and cut of from life. far from the truth, weeping and gnashing of teeth even though the gates of the new jerusalem are always open.

so the son of perdition is condemned to destruction for he is the evil spirit who trys to put himself in the place of God. He the consuming fire snuffs out the shadows for there is no shadow of turning in our Father. that which can not endure perishes, not being forgiven. and so God not forgiving parts of us is not such a big deal, they need to die for his beloved deserves to be loved and to love. whoever touches the reflection in his eye shall perish.

 

[jason1]

Blasphemy of the Spirit = Open and defianat rebellion (sin)

Num 15:30 ‘But the being who does whatever defiantly, whether he is native or a stranger, he reviles YHVH and that being shall be cut off from among his people.

Conclusion:

Luk_4:4 But Jesus answered him, saying, "It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of Elohim.

 

[Hieronymus]

So before the rejection we have the blaspheme of slander which has no forgiveness.

Sorry, but nobody will slander that which that person does not reject.
It is however very well possible to reject something without slandering it.

or do we mean different things here while using the same words?

 

[Noxot]

so the beast that 'was' and 'is not' signifies the "not forgiven in this age" or "the age to come"

in contrast to the nature of the Trinity - the Lord, 'who is', and 'who was', and 'who is coming'--the Almighty.....

you see that this is a three signifying the 3 persons, Elohim. and there is the living beast with 6 wings that praise God, Holy Holy Holy.