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I think many christian homes want the man to be the final authority because he generally is more likely to not allow his emotions to get the best of him.
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gwenmead
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ke1985 said:
This is one common belief, yes.
Another belief is that men should not have the final authority because they are socialized to express a limited range of emotions, and thus are generally unable to draw on the full range of emotion in making decisions.
Not sayin' it's my belief, but it's a belief.
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Braunwyn
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Everything? At home, work, etc? I have to disagree. Perhaps the people in your life are emotional. I don't think it's reasonable to generalize your experience onto 3 billion people. eta: It would be nice if you picked a single issue. Picking out a bag of apples at the supermarket? Painting the bedroom? Paying the bills? Doing yard work?
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As a Christian, Scripture says you are the head and authority over your wife. What say you?
I say that I love my wife as Christ loves the church - and that I make decisions accordingly. Decisions that I make are altruistic - and never made out of selfishness. In my humble and faulty human manner - I am intensely interested in her input and trust her judgment as well. Those things definitely factor into whatever decisions are made.
So - am I the "final authority" in a way - sure. However - it is definitely with input and consideration of both in the relationship - neither's interest taking precedence or having more importance.
How's that? lol
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CreedIsChrist
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of course its not wrong. God commands it, both in the OT and the NT. A woman who tries to domineer over her husbands authority not only shames her husband but also breaks a divine command.
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Braunwyn
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Again, authority of what, specifically? I've asked this question so many times and while people respond, it never makes any sense to me. Authority of who makes the coffee? What time to have dinner? Who answers the phone?
eta: though maybe it's a matter of who is talking/leading/teaching in church?
eta: though maybe it's a matter of who is talking/leading/teaching in church?
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CreedIsChrist
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You see it everyday. Within work, society, the marketplace. The husband is the last word of the house(as long as it does nothing against her faith or morals, and the refraining of abuse). The stable platform that the wife and children are on.
We see, based on the divorce rate and illegitimacy rates, that solid gender roles cause a significant improvement in the quality of family life and the longevity of marriage. When the couple has known bounds that they must not cross there is much less inclination for domestic abuse and marital problems. Instead of a man screaming at his wife he treats her with charity and chivalry, instead of the woman nagging and domineering her husband she instead humbles herself and learns to be quiet and civil. Whereas confused gender roles cause an increase in family turmoil, disrespect, insecurity, and divorce,, neither of the sexes know anything about bounds or respect, they do not know how far the line is to cross until they start ruining their own marriage.
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Same here. It goes to show how people will do or believe anything in the name of religion.
By no means am I saying religion is evil. However, I do not want to blindly follow a commandment that makes no sense and/or is culturally outdated!
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Braunwyn
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He's saying that it's seen in the home, the marketplace, and work. What? If he wants red apples and she wants green, than it's going to be red. The work one throws me for a loop.
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Any man who thinks he has the right to make a woman's decision for her, may as well be the lowliest of beings. Everybody is equal, and just because one is male doesn't mean he has the final say.
A relationship requires respect, each member's respect for eachother is important. There must be balance and equality, not one male tyrant with his cowering wife-subject.
Who is to be the judge of the quality of family life? Quality is a bias opinion.
These thoughts of male dominence are monotheistic ideas, and should not have to be carried out in every household. Everybody is different. But no person's soul weighs more than another's. Men are no better than women. It is the couple's choice to decide their roles within their lives, without respect to these disgusting and oppressive "gender roles".
A relationship requires respect, each member's respect for eachother is important. There must be balance and equality, not one male tyrant with his cowering wife-subject.
Who is to be the judge of the quality of family life? Quality is a bias opinion.
These thoughts of male dominence are monotheistic ideas, and should not have to be carried out in every household. Everybody is different. But no person's soul weighs more than another's. Men are no better than women. It is the couple's choice to decide their roles within their lives, without respect to these disgusting and oppressive "gender roles".
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