Final Authority and Final Canonization

[James2018]

Historically and logically, Theology is the master university science
and was central in the development of higher education.
The central critical issue in academic theology is final authority.
I wish to present my theory of final authority and final canonization,
not to doubtful disputation, envy, strive or contention, but in sincerity and love.

 

[James2018]

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye,
but not to doubtful disputations.

Philippians 1:15-17
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife . . .
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely . . .
17 But the other of love . . .

 

[James2018]

Let's assume that we have all read the same books
or at least have thought about the same things.

What I post I have written, lectured, published and distributed.
Please no cut and paste.

 

[James2018]

The thesis and antithesis of final is sola scriptura vs. sola ecclesia.
Either the scriptures are the final authority
or the church is the final authority.
The scriptures states that all scripture is given by inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,
out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Scripture references to the church are speaking
about the one body in Christ, not one denomination.
Romans 12:5 So we, being many are one body in Christ,
and every one members one of another.

 

[James2018]

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
only the original autographs were given by inspiration of God.
There are no original manuscripts.

 

[dysert]

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
only the original autographs were given by inspiration of God.
There are no original manuscripts.

Are we allowed to disagree, or is this a write-only thread (by you)?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
only the original autographs were given by inspiration of God.
There are no original manuscripts.

This "premise" is not necessarily truth, so anything that follows it cannot be built upon it nor can it stand , possibly, with this kind of understanding, apparently.

 

[James2018]

#2. You cannot honestly say " the bible " or " all bibles "
are given by inspiration of God. There are over 400 bible translations
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

#3. You cannot honesty say " the Greek text " or " all Greek texts "
are given by inspiration of God. There are over 24 Greek N.T. texts
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.
All N.T. Greek texts are reconstructed.

 

[dysert]

Are we allowed to disagree, or is this a write-only thread (by you)?

Well, I guess my question has been answered.

 

[dreadnought]

Historically and logically, Theology is the master university science
and was central in the development of higher education.
The central critical issue in academic theology is final authority.
I wish to present my theory of final authority and final canonization,
not to doubtful disputation, envy, strive or contention, but in sincerity and love.

I think the final canonization comes in our relationship as we walk with the Lord. After all, the purpose of the Bible is to introduce us to him.

 

[James2018]

#2. You cannot honestly say " the bible " or " all bibles "
are given by inspiration of God. There are over 400 bible translations
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

This "premise" is not necessarily truth, so anything that follows it cannot be built upon it nor can it stand , possibly, with this kind of understanding, apparently.

This "premise" is not necessarily truth, so anything that follows it cannot be built upon it nor can it stand , possibly, with this kind of understanding, apparently.

What is wrong with my premise ?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God . . .

 

[James2018]

I think the final canonization comes in our relationship as we walk with the Lord. After all, the purpose of the Bible is to introduce us to him.

truly a nice thought, but scripture is God's written word

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

To start with, you compounded error by mixing up "this premise" ( you numbered #1 )
with a completely different statement of yours you numbered #2.

Then also by mixing up your posts as if they were in line with or quotes of/with Scripture .

#2. You cannot honestly say " the bible " or " all bibles "
are given by inspiration of God. There are over 400 bible translations
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.
What is wrong with my premise ?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God . . .

 

[James2018]

Are we allowed to disagree, or is this a write-only thread (by you)?

That is not a sincere question.

 

[James2018]

To start with, you compounded error by mixing up "this premise" ( you numbered #1 )
with a completely different statement of yours you numbered #2.

Then also by mixing up your posts as if they were in line with or quotes of/with Scripture .

oh, ok, try to stay on topic.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

That is not a sincere question.
Please try to understand what I'm saying.

Actually this further compounds your errors in this thread.
Every indication of that poster and his questions/posts related to this thread
is that it is a sincere question,
and it is a question (of your purpose / motives) that occurred to me, sincerely, also BEFORE he posted.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

oh, ok, try to stay on topic.

With a still standing faulty premise,
what will the new topic be now ?
There must be a solid true premise first, before proceeding.

 

[James2018]

Actually this further compounds your errors in this thread.
Every indication of that poster and his questions/posts related to this thread
is that it is a sincere question,
and it is a question (of your purpose / motives) that occurred to me, sincerely, also BEFORE he posted.

please contribute to the discussion without personal attacks

 

[James2018]

With a still standing faulty premise,
what will the new topic be now ?
There must be a solid true premise first, before proceeding.

oh, ok, what would be the true premise

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There have been no personal attacks in this thread by anyone.
(unless you calling someone silly is one ? )

There are many true premises / topics/ subjects anyone might start with, in line with all Scripture and seeking the truth of Yahweh (God the Creator).

By catching/ identifying a faulty premise
it just saves , potentially, people from a lot of wasted time and effort
before going on and on and on for days or weeks or dozens or hundreds of posts ....

lol, you're silly, please contribute to the discussion without personal attacks

oh, ok, what would be the true premise