Fellowship with CindyisHis (4) Part one

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

When Jesus left Jerusalem He cried over the city and said, If you only knew the peace that you had coming to you, but they would have none of it and so He wept.

 

[peacechild4]

Yes we need to cry out more.. how people reject the LORD everyday.. the chance to be saved.. the chance to have peace..

 

[CindyisHis]

Thank you for communicating with me and with each other as I am not here as much, or able to express all I'd like to you. It's important you remain here in fellowship, because I am reading, and I am praying for you. My time to "talk" is what is limited.

Mark, we give our son all the liberty he desires, for he is an adult. We only ask he not play satanic music in the house. Seems fair. If he can't hang - adios. As for me and my house ....

I love him dearly, and am torn. If he is here, he is still under our influence. We have not spoken to him, and in the calm right now it makes the decision more difficult. We are leaning on the Lord, for the Lord gives wisdom. I am confident He is leading me in all things, as I seek Him and abide in His Word.

pc4, think about this - a workman is worthy of his wages. If he is laboring in the things of God, or things in the natural, if the Lord has called him, he is worthy of his wages. Sometimes the Lord directs to offer things freely. Sometimes He asks one to take a different route. One must be prudent. One must always be sowing seed and giving. As to how much, and what to give, is a personal matter, imho.

Thank you so much for praying. It is wonderful to not have an income and be at peace, confident in the Lord. Hubby found something yesterday, purely commision, and that not too good, or so it seems.

It is wonderful to see my husband free from the burden that has weighed heavily on him for these many years. Haven't the time to tell of how oppressive his job was, yet he endured. Honestly, he seems a different man. He's helping me at the home during these extremely busy days this week. He's done so much, and he is so loving to me. Many times when people are difficult it is b/c of the great oppression of the enemy. We must always be patient and kind with everyone, no matter how they act. I'm glad I stood with him, and stand with him now. I am reaping the harvest.

As for harvest, the rest is on the way. Can't sow financial seed without reaping the same. Can't wait to see what the Lord has done! I say past tense, for there is no time in God. He is I AM. He's already way ahead of us, already made the provision. That's why I can rest, and be in perfect peace. My mind is stayed on Him.

 

[CindyisHis]

QUOTE=CindyisHis;46117608]Know what I'm listening to? The Bournemouth Victory Campaign. Gloria is laying hands on the people. I believe it is Len Mink worshiping in song - Worthy is the Lamb. What an anointing there!

It was a different song, but that one is a great song, Irene. We sing this one at church.

Everything seems to be whacked out about this site and post. Hope you know what I'm talking about.

 

[Mark2010]

Yeah, sometimes when we are releaved of a job, it almost feels like a blessing. A mixed blessing, perhaps, but sometimes just the release from the stress is a good thing.

Cindy, my apologies if I offended you. I certainly did not mean to imply what you should or should not do regarding your son. Those are tough decisions and I do not know enough of the situation to offer wise counsel.

 

[libertybelle]

Yeah, sometimes when we are releaved of a job, it almost feels like a blessing. A mixed blessing, perhaps, but sometimes just the release from the stress is a good thing.

Cindy, my apologies if I offended you. I certainly did not mean to imply what you should or should not do regarding your son. Those are tough decisions and I do not know enough of the situation to offer wise counsel.

It is a difficult thing to live through Mark, but after reading your post there is validity in what is said. When my son began spiraling downwards (at 17) from the upbringing he had, my heart sank and I was before the Lord constantly.

The Lord brought me to the understanding that the relationship between my son and Him, was exactly that- between Josh and the Lord. I could pray for Josh, I could continue to speak in the ways of the Lord, but I wouldn't ever "make" Josh understand or accept the Lord's way- only the Lord could and in His time would.

However the relationship between me and my son had turned so sour and it seemed we were at constant odds. I could not abide by his actions and out front rebellion against me or God. The Lord gave me Matthew 10;34, which honestly grieved me even more.
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

It took me two years to realize I was being a bad example. I was demonstrating just as much worldly attitudes and actions by my behaviors and words as my son was in his friends, music, and drug use. At first I didn't believe that, for I knew Josh was in straight up opposition to the Lord. Yet, by my constant "defense" of the Gospel I presented myself and Christ as hostile, overbearing, pushy, and self righteous. This gave Josh ample ammunition as to why he wanted nothing to do with Christianity.

So by putting on the world and leaving aside the clothing of love, humility, peace, patience, kindness, compassion, longsuffering...and as you know the list goes on, I continued to be "Mommy Dearest", as Josh would so often call me.

I'm so thrilled that the Lord brought me to see my own actions and behaviors during that time. I'm so disappointed in myself over the poor representation of my Lord and the impression it left on my adolescent son. I now pray for Josh. I demonstrate that which I should around Josh, love, kindness, compassion, and the such. I have found by acting this way the Lord gives me the patience and longsuffering I need to deal with the young man.

Josh knows the rules and boundaries in my home have not changed nor are they flexible. The house sits on Joshua 24;15. On the other hand I have to accept that Josh has the right to come to his decision as it is also stated in Joshua 24;15.
And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

I always have to keep in mind, that before I began to walk with the Lord in a personal relationship, I was like Josh. I have yet to meet anyone that wasn't dead before Christ. Our children don't get special privileges just because we, as parents, follow closely to our Lord and Savior. Christ makes each accountable for their own acceptance or rejection of Him.

Have a blessed day.

 

[peacechild4]

It is a difficult thing to live through Mark, but after reading your post there is validity in what is said. When my son began spiraling downwards (at 17) from the upbringing he had, my heart sank and I was before the Lord constantly.

The Lord brought me to the understanding that the relationship between my son and Him, was exactly that- between Josh and the Lord. I could pray for Josh, I could continue to speak in the ways of the Lord, but I wouldn't ever "make" Josh understand or accept the Lord's way- only the Lord could and in His time would.

However the relationship between me and my son had turned so sour and it seemed we were at constant odds. I could not abide by his actions and out front rebellion against me or God. The Lord gave me Matthew 10;34, which honestly grieved me even more.
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

It took me two years to realize I was being a bad example. I was demonstrating just as much worldly attitudes and actions by my behaviors and words as my son was in his friends, music, and drug use. At first I didn't believe that, for I knew Josh was in straight up opposition to the Lord. Yet, by my constant "defense" of the Gospel I presented myself and Christ as hostile, overbearing, pushy, and self righteous. This gave Josh ample ammunition as to why he wanted nothing to do with Christianity.

So by putting on the world and leaving aside the clothing of love, humility, peace, patience, kindness, compassion, longsuffering...and as you know the list goes on, I continued to be "Mommy Dearest", as Josh would so often call me.


I'm so thrilled that the Lord brought me to see my own actions and behaviors during that time. I'm so disappointed in myself over the poor representation of my Lord and the impression it left on my adolescent son. I now pray for Josh. I demonstrate that which I should around Josh, love, kindness, compassion, and the such. I have found by acting this way the Lord gives me the patience and longsuffering I need to deal with the young man.

Josh knows the rules and boundaries in my home have not changed nor are they flexible. The house sits on Joshua 24;15. On the other hand I have to accept that Josh has the right to come to his decision as it is also stated in Joshua 24;15.
And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”


I always have to keep in mind, that before I began to walk with the Lord in a personal relationship, I was like Josh. I have yet to meet anyone that wasn't dead before Christ. Our children don't get special privileges just because we, as parents, follow closely to our Lord and Savior. Christ makes each accountable for their own acceptance or rejection of Him.

Have a blessed day.

Hi Libertybelle.. this is a very beautiful post.. this is exactly what I have been led to do.. it isn't easy unless we walk continually in love.. I weep for thinking of it.. because it is so like our LORD.. if only we could all be as He..

Oh Lord I continually fail to love like You do us.. Father forgive me.. for I so much want to change others and their behaviour.. but I cannot... for that is Your job alone.. Thank You for Libertybelle and her walk of love for her son Josh.. Father let her light so shine before Josh that he sees her good deeds and Josh gives praise to You His Father in heaven!! Amen

 

[CindyisHis]

Yeah, sometimes when we are releaved of a job, it almost feels like a blessing. A mixed blessing, perhaps, but sometimes just the release from the stress is a good thing.

Cindy, my apologies if I offended you. I certainly did not mean to imply what you should or should not do regarding your son. Those are tough decisions and I do not know enough of the situation to offer wise counsel.

You didn't offend me at all! Just hope I didn't come across in a bad way.

 

[CindyisHis]

I'm so thrilled that the Lord brought me to see my own actions and behaviors during that time. I'm so disappointed in myself over the poor representation of my Lord and the impression it left on my adolescent son. I now pray for Josh. I demonstrate that which I should around Josh, love, kindness, compassion, and the such. I have found by acting this way the Lord gives me the patience and longsuffering I need to deal with the young man.

Josh knows the rules and boundaries in my home have not changed nor are they flexible. The house sits on Joshua 24;15. On the other hand I have to accept that Josh has the right to come to his decision as it is also stated in Joshua 24;15.
And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

I always have to keep in mind, that before I began to walk with the Lord in a personal relationship, I was like Josh. I have yet to meet anyone that wasn't dead before Christ. Our children don't get special privileges just because we, as parents, follow closely to our Lord and Savior. Christ makes each accountable for their own acceptance or rejection of Him.

Have a blessed day.

Amen. Thank you for sharing this. Don't look back. Don't live with any regrets. You repented, and it sounds like you're walking in love towards him now.

I am so thankful every time the Lord opens my eyes to my sinfulness so I can correct my behavior. I can attest to some of these same things. It's rare over the past several years that I have gotten out of line with my son. It has happened, for sure, and I go to him and ask for forgiveness for the way I handled things. Usually the point I make does not change, if ever, but the manner in which it is delivered does.

I think he knew he crossed a line he shouldn't have the other day. He has been ever so sweet since. Also, he has not played the awful music once, not in my presence.

 

[rmw8855]

Cindy your issues with your son remind me of a story I heard Gloria Copeland tell about her & John.

If I remember the story correctly - Gloria Copeland was praying about her son John when he wasn't living as he should and she heard God ask her a question "Isn't my grace sufficient to protect your son?"

You have raised your son in the admonition of the Lord; all you can do know is be an example, keep him in prayer, and keep showing him that you love him regardless of how he acts. Then trust in God to do the rest.

 

[peacechild4]

Can we all come together for our children and pray a prayer of agreement over them.. or just for them to come into that perfect plan God has for their lives..

Our oldest daughter Talitha.. is only 15 and has not been conducting herself in the way fitting of a young woman.. She has been so flippant in her attitude as to how young teens act towards each other..
I desire for her to stay pure for her husband to be in the future.. to be protected..

Father God help us as parents to do all we know to do.. and yet trust in You for the outcome.. I know Father that there was times I myself as a young person put myself in grave danger.. and yet even though I was not following You at the time as I should.. You protected me.. thank You for praying parents and grand-parents.. and thank You our children have our prayers.. many children and youth in this world do not.. How blessed are we to be able to pray for our children and grand-children.. Father protect them from evil.. and we thank You that when one in a family is following You.. the others are covered and protected.. Father I pray for each one of our children.. those who are posting and speaking of children.. Come to know You as Lord.. and that our lights shine so brightly and we love them as You love us.. Father forgive us for the mistakes we have made.. and thank You that You do.. Let us let them go.. and wait as the Father did the prodical son.. who did return to his senses and come home.. Help us to be waiting in earnest and believing for them to return and let us welcome them with open arms when they come.. Father guide us by the Holy Spirit and thank You for saving our household.. for as for us and our households.. we serve You LORD!! Halleujah.. amen

 

[rmw8855]

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Father God help us as parents to do all we know to do.. and yet trust in You for the outcome.. I know Father that there was times I myself as a young person put myself in grave danger.. and yet even though I was not following You at the time as I should.. You protected me.. thank You for praying parents and grand-parents.. and thank You our children have our prayers.. many children and youth in this world do not.. How blessed are we to be able to pray for our children and grand-children.. Father protect them from evil.. and we thank You that when one in a family is following You.. the others are covered and protected.. Father I pray for each one of our children.. those who are posting and speaking of children.. Come to know You as Lord.. and that our lights shine so brightly and we love them as You love us.. Father forgive us for the mistakes we have made.. and thank You that You do.. Let us let them go.. and wait as the Father did the prodical son.. who did return to his senses and come home.. Help us to be waiting in earnest and believing for them to return and let us welcome them with open arms when they come.. Father guide us by the Holy Spirit and thank You for saving our household.. for as for us and our households.. we serve You LORD!! Halleujah.. amen

I come into agreement with this prayer

 

[libertybelle]

Can we all come together for our children and pray a prayer of agreement over them.. or just for them to come into that perfect plan God has for their lives..

Our oldest daughter Talitha.. is only 15 and has not been conducting herself in the way fitting of a young woman.. She has been so flippant in her attitude as to how young teens act towards each other..
I desire for her to stay pure for her husband to be in the future.. to be protected..

Father God help us as parents to do all we know to do.. and yet trust in You for the outcome.. I know Father that there was times I myself as a young person put myself in grave danger.. and yet even though I was not following You at the time as I should.. You protected me.. thank You for praying parents and grand-parents.. and thank You our children have our prayers.. many children and youth in this world do not.. How blessed are we to be able to pray for our children and grand-children.. Father protect them from evil.. and we thank You that when one in a family is following You.. the others are covered and protected.. Father I pray for each one of our children.. those who are posting and speaking of children.. Come to know You as Lord.. and that our lights shine so brightly and we love them as You love us.. Father forgive us for the mistakes we have made.. and thank You that You do.. Let us let them go.. and wait as the Father did the prodical son.. who did return to his senses and come home.. Help us to be waiting in earnest and believing for them to return and let us welcome them with open arms when they come.. Father guide us by the Holy Spirit and thank You for saving our household.. for as for us and our households.. we serve You LORD!! Halleujah.. amen

Lord God, Holy One of Israel, I stand in agreement with my sisters. You, You alone O Lord God have all wisdom. You alone know the outcome of each and every situation. And You Mighty Prince from everlasting to everlasting can give us Your insight, discernment, words, and wisdom. Amen and Amen

 

[Mark2010]

I've never been a parent, so I am not claiming to understand all the dynamics of that relationship, nor the emotions involved.

I have heard similar stories from others, including from a pastor whom I deeply respect. I know being a parent is not easy at times.

I know you won't give up on your kids.

Blessings

 

[libertybelle]

I've never been a parent, so I am not claiming to understand all the dynamics of that relationship, nor the emotions involved.

I have heard similar stories from others, including from a pastor whom I deeply respect. I know being a parent is not easy at times.

I know you won't give up on your kids.

Blessings

Thank you Mark. I know all the prayers that passed my lips when my children were little will not return empty. I now pray for my granddaughter, for she too will come to a place in her life where she needs to make this life determining choice- eternal life or....and I shudder to think!

So for all the parents who need the Lord to place His people, who follow in His ways, at the crossroads of our children's lives when they are faced with uncertain choices or circumstance....be there Lord God- be there.

And that my dear brother Mark, does include you. I am sure the Lord has placed you in positions concerning children who needed your gifts, talents, abilities, and wisdom at precisely that moment.

 

[Mark2010]

Really tough and discouraging day at work. Some things have been boiling for a while now and coming to a head. Meeting with a supervisor tomorrow. On the surface it looks like we have irreconcilable differences. So I'm probably leaving, maybe sooner, maybe later.

I'm not even sure I want to stay under the present conditions. I feel like I have to speak up, hold my position in a friendly, yet firm, way. As much as I dread job hunting again, I probably dread being stuck here even more.

Anyway, I don't know what will happen. But I pray I have the courage and aptitude to handle it professionally and that whatever happens be for the best.

Appreciate your prayers.

 

[CindyisHis]

Psalm 119:37 Turn my eyes from looking at what is worthless; give me life in Your ways. HCSB

His ways give life. The world’s ways rob us from life. Many things which may be engaged in lead to futility and emptiness. There’s no profit it them.

On the contrary, Jesus has come to bring life. Jesus, the Living Word, The Way, The Truth, and The Life, has come to bring life, a life that overflows, a life superabundant, above what you could ask or think. Jesus in The Way.
John 10:10 A thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come that they may have life and have it in abundance.

Jesus in The Way. The psalmist prayed, “Give me life in Your ways.” And here is Jesus, Who is The Way.
The Hebrew word “way” in Old Testament can be defined as

• road, way, path
  [*]direction
  [*]manner, habit, way

In all I face at this time, I have abundant life. I have joy, I have peace. This works. The Word of God is true. And I am confident all will be restored, my husband is led of the Lord and he will have a job and/or business that is good, that my son is delivered and desires the Lord more than anything, and my daughter is healed.

Yes, yesterday a fever came on her suddenly, shooting up to 103.7. I fear not. I believe, and she is healed. Just watch and see!

It doesn't pay to behold empty, worthless things. What is worth beyond price, above rubies, above anything, is Jesus, and beholding Him in all our ways.

The Lord bless each one of you. He has called you out, you are His chosen, and His delight is in you.

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[CindyisHis]

Really tough and discouraging day at work. Some things have been boiling for a while now and coming to a head. Meeting with a supervisor tomorrow. On the surface it looks like we have irreconcilable differences. So I'm probably leaving, maybe sooner, maybe later.

I'm not even sure I want to stay under the present conditions. I feel like I have to speak up, hold my position in a friendly, yet firm, way. As much as I dread job hunting again, I probably dread being stuck here even more.

Anyway, I don't know what will happen. But I pray I have the courage and aptitude to handle it professionally and that whatever happens be for the best.

Appreciate your prayers.

This describes perfectly what my husband just went through. His confrontation with his boss was this past Monday. He handled it extremely well, following the Lord in every way. Thus, we have confidence that the Lord will direct our steps as we acknowledge him in all our ways. Proverbs 3:5-6

Lord, give Mark Your peace, wisdom for the meeting with his supervisor, and for Your direction and provision, as Mark acknowledges You in all His ways. Help him to behold you continually, and walk in all Your ways.

 

[CindyisHis]

Cindy your issues with your son remind me of a story I heard Gloria Copeland tell about her & John.

If I remember the story correctly - Gloria Copeland was praying about her son John when he wasn't living as he should and she heard God ask her a question "Isn't my grace sufficient to protect your son?"

You have raised your son in the admonition of the Lord; all you can do know is be an example, keep him in prayer, and keep showing him that you love him regardless of how he acts. Then trust in God to do the rest.

Thanks, rmw. Yes, the Lord will do the rest. And I have labored to enter His rest. The Lord will perform His Word unto me.

Thanks, for bringing up Gloria's testimony. I've heard her tell it a few times. I met her and Ken during that time in their lives whne I was working in a restaurant. I served them! They were my only table, at around 3 in the afternoon. I can say Gloria had perfect peace. The presence of God emanated from her. Bro. Ken was pretty quiet. Of course, she never mentioned anything personal, but putting two and two together, I'm almost certain it was during this time. It was also when the ministry was very much in debt and Ken was seeking the Lord for answers. Indeed, the Lord showed him - give! I don't think they've ever been in debt since, and John is serving the Lord as CEO of the ministry, and a faithful husband and father.

Glory to God!

Here they were dealing with their own issues, and what did they do? Minister to me. And tip, more than their bill.

 

[CindyisHis]

I desire for her to stay pure for her husband to be in the future.. to be protected..

Father God help us as parents to do all we know to do.. and yet trust in You for the outcome.. .. Father protect them from evil.. and we thank You that when one in a family is following You.. the others are covered and protected.. Father I pray for each one of our children.. those who are posting and speaking of children.. Come to know You as Lord.. and that our lights shine so brightly and we love them as You love us.. Father forgive us for the mistakes we have made.. and thank You that You do.. Let us let them go.. and wait as the Father did the prodical son.. who did return to his senses and come home.. Help us to be waiting in earnest and believing for them to return and let us welcome them with open arms when they come.. Father guide us by the Holy Spirit and thank You for saving our household.. for as for us and our households.. we serve You LORD!! Halleujah.. amen

Amen, amen.