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Feds secretly knew for years Joe Biden met with son’s Chinese partners on official trip

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Yet, I have never seen the actual names of the individuals. Did see that Hunter talked to a certain company but nothing that shows Joe Biden actually talked business with Hunter's business partners in China.
 
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On msn, but the document is from the House Oversight committee led by the GOP
The photos were on MSN and the claims of bank records was from the House Oversight Committee.

Do you have a reason to doubt the Oversight Committee other than you not liking Republicans?
 
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The photos were on MSN and the claims of bank records was from the House Oversight Committee.

Do you have a reason to doubt the Oversight Committee other than you not liking Republicans?
I have reason to distrust the Republicans on the oversight committee and the efforts of Comer in particular. This isn't Trump or Republican hate - or do just want to believe the worst of Biden because you hate him? The 'you just hate ____" is a cop-out argument.
 
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I can think of quite a few possible explanations for this.

1. Joe Biden is lying and has been using his positions to help his son advance his business.

2. Joe Biden knowingly met with Hunter's business associates, but did not discuss business with them. He stretched the truth by saying that they never met.

3. Joe Biden met with Hunter's business associates, but they were not introduced as such. He was, therefore, mistaken when he said he'd never met his son's business associates, but not lying about it. Obviously, if he didn't know they were business associates of Hunter's, no business would have been discussed.

4. Hunter Biden is lying to his business partners about his father meeting with their foreign associates, or at least the nature of their interactions.

There's not really sufficient evidence to rule out any of these scenarios entirely, so it seems odd to me that so many have jumped to the conclusion that it's scenario 1.

Personally, I think it's probably a combination of scenarios 2 and 3, with maybe a touch of 4. While there isn't enough evidence to completely rule out the possibility of scenario 1, the evidence for it is circumstantial at best, and is more easily explained by the other three scenarios.

Overall though, I don't see this as a particularly big deal. Politicians schmooze, and people in the orbit of politicians (including their children) try to leverage their proximity to power in order to make a buck or build power of their own. At worst, that's all that seems to be going on here. And if we're going to condemn Biden for it, there's just as much evidence for similar activities from Trump and his family (Ivanka scored some major business deals in China, Jared Kushner got a huge investment from the Saudis), so it's not like the alternative is any better. Back to square one.
 
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Halliburton do good work on providing the chow there?
 
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I disagree. I believe that the impeachment proceedings were canceled because those committee members understood knew that there was not enough votes in the House of Representatives for that impeachment to have a majority number of votes.
The Republicans were in the majority, but without evidence they couldn't even garner party support.
 
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It wasn't an argument at all. I asked if you had a reason.

Biden has a history of lying. Proven. Facts.

I don't find it unreasonable to think that he is lying again.
 
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Wow, a few more incidents like that and he could be "almost" as corrupt as Ivanka and her father.
Get those imaginations working!

We know what Ivanka's business is.

What does Hunter sell?
 
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It depends on how he meant 'met". Already covered that.
Where is proof that Biden had a business discussion with said "Chinese partners" of Hunter?

If there was any proof, why did the impeachment efforts by the House GOP flop?


House Republicans had been itching to start impeachment proceedings against Joe Biden from the moment he was inaugurated. But, as the idiom goes, be careful what you wish for: Six months after then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy initiated an inquiry into the president, the stunt is now blowing up in their faces. They’ve failed to turn up evidence to incriminate Biden, and the flimsy pretense they based their effort on appears to have come from Russian intelligence. Their already-slim majority is narrowing further with the early retirement of disillusioned Representative Ken Buck. And this week's testimony from special counsel Robert Hur, who helped turbocharge questions about Biden’s age, likely failed to convince GOP members wary of impeachment to ultimately back the crusade.​
“It is obviously time to move on, Mr. Speaker,” White House counsel Edward N. Siskel wrote to Mike Johnson Friday. “This impeachment is over. There is too much important work to be done for the American people to continue wasting time on this charade.”....​
Just as the GOP’s endless Benghazi investigation wasn’t about accountability but dragging down Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the Biden impeachment has been about creating the impression that he is, in Trump’s words, “crooked.” They don’t need a formal vote to accomplish that—just a platform to spread their innuendo about Biden’s supposed corruption. But how much reach do those hazy insinuations have beyond their right-wing bubble, especially as their leader faces concrete charges in four separate criminal cases? “None of the evidence has demonstrated that the president did anything wrong,” Siskel wrote to Johnson, who insists that his investigators have uncovered “alarming” proof of Biden’s wrongdoing but that he has been too “busy” to decide what to do with it. “In fact, it has shown the opposite of what House Republicans have claimed.”​

This makes me think of Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves​
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:​
All mimsy were the borogoves,​
And the mome raths outgrabe.​
“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!​
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!​
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun​
The frumious Bandersnatch!”​

House GOP dreams that Biden did the crimes they claim is all gibberish.
 
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Biden said "interact" - that he never interacted with them.

Unlike the Democrats - I think the Republicans are unwilling to impeach if they don't think it will stick.

That does not mean that Biden isn't crooked - only that they don't think they could get the votes.
 
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They couldn't get the votes because they had no proof. Even Devon Archer let them down.
Proof that he never interacted with Hunter's business partners?
 
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