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Feast Days And Sabbath Days. Are They Still Binding?

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Elijah:

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You got one thing right, in Job it was the representatives of the unfallen worlds that came together to present themselves to God. However, it is very unlikely it was on one of God's feast days (holy days). It was more than likely a new moon.
So by the same train of thought, why would the unfallen beings come together at one of those times. There is no seperation from them and God. Plus it would reason to say that this type of get together would have been something that was done since before the earth was created. Thus probably a new moon.

Let me say I accept your humble thoughts and love to discuss this matter with you. I thought it was the New Moon as well but they came to present themselves which deals with firstfruit and not just worship.

The reason I say this is because those Holy Days all point to Christ's ministry on behave of fallen man. They show us the plan of salvation. So they then would have been instilled after the garden exile. There would be no need to have them if sin had never entered into the world.

Well according to the Bible the Feast of YAHWEH are universal read Gen 1:14: The word seasonal here is the same word we call feast in Lev 23:2, 4 both in Hebrew is an appointed meeting called Mo‘ed. All of the appointed meeting YAHWEH made clear they are His. They all represented the birthright privilege before sin which is still the same privilege after sin-Salvation. The Unleavened Bread is the removal of leaven out of the bread, but Bread has always represents the Life Givers even before sin. The Appointed meeting of weeks or “Firstfruits” (Ex. 34:22) represent what we yield but how we learn this through crop growing. However we also yield our children which is also our firstfruits that was giving to man before sin with child bearing. It also represents stewardship of this earth as it would be for any world that is populated by beings created by ELOHIM. Seven weeks we must be prepared to reap the harvest to present our labor before YAHWEH the FATHER! The number seven is very significant and the Trumpets are blown in Heaven to prepare the coming events. The New Moons (months) are not special call meeting but like the Sabbath a day of monthly worship. The Seventh Month is not only a worship day but a solemn on here on earth. However before sin is was a victory call a special occasion of celebration because the harvest report is complete on each world for that year now a special event is about to take place! Day of Atonement I can only say that this day must have been only given to sinful man because it the only sabbath of man. Our sabbath is of sorrow, praying that sin has been removed before we are judge. It is a time of reflection and repentance that our names will not be blotted out. Feast of Harvest is when the sons of ELOHIM comes again for a whole week like the other two to make a pilgrimage. Again the word feast is used but different Hebrew word is used instead meaning to make a pilgrimage, chag. Three times the Children of Israel was to make a pilgrimage to come and worship before ELOHIM and the same thing was required by all the unfallen worlds before sin. Ex 23:14; Deut. 16:16

EGW had the opportunity to visit others worlds these beings had a Tree of Life and Good and Evil just like we did. They visit each other as she saw Enoch visit one of their planets. The Statues are not just for us neither are the Law. We have attempted to make YAHWEH racist by saying HE only selected Israel, but that is not true, the Canaanites were selected first but they fail as did Israel. HE then came to the Gentile the white man who also has fail as a whole. This is the lesson of the Feast of YAHWEH there are HIS and we must obey them. Yes you are right that here on earth they center on Salvation but all THREE ELOHIM are a part of the Salvation plan. If you are interested go into my email and I will send you what I have learned about the Salvation plan of the Feast Days.

However I do believe that it was representatives of each world God has created and not angels. More than likely the first created of each world. That is why Satan came. Not because He was to do so, but because He usurped Adams place as the representative of this planet. He stole that right from Adam when Adam sinned. And when Christ gave His perfect sinless life for us, or became the second Adam, He took the right back. Thus Satan was cast out of Heaven. just my humble thoughts anyways

You are correct but Satan is not a representative of this earth. It has never belonged to him never even after man sinned. Just think about it Satan has to have permission from YAHSHUA not the FATHER because the FATHER cannot look upon sin if so even Satan would have died. Secondly they cannot enter Heaven anymore not even Satan he stands at the Gate. You know we must understand something where ever the FATHER has been is Holy Grounds. Adam and Eve could not return to the Garden of Eden and then it was removed after the flood. The FATHER sent HIS SON in HIS Name to represent HIM. It was the SON who talked to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Daniel, Peter, and Paul, John the Revelator and Hiram Edison and EGW also others.

In that thick darkness ELOHIM’S PRESENCE was hidden. He makes darkness His pavilion, and conceals HIS glory from human eyes. ELOHIM and HIS Holy angels were beside the cross. The FATHER was with HIS SON. Yet HIS PRESENCE was not revealed. Had HIS Glory flashed forth from the cloud, every human beholder would have been destroyed. And in that dreadful hour YAHSHUA was not to be comforted with the FATHER'S PRESENCE. HE trod the wine press alone, and of the people there was none with HIM. DA 753,754

FATHER by Side of SON in Giving Law.—When the Law was Spoken, YAHWEH, the CREATOR of Heaven and earth, stood by the side of HIS SON, enshrouded in the fire and the smoke on the Mount.

No man hath seen ELOHIM at any time; the only BEGOTTON SON, which is in the Bosom of the FATHER, HE hath Declared HIM. John 1:18

Behold, I send an ANGEL before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of HIM, and obey HIS Voice, provoke HIM not; for HE will not pardon your transgressions: for MY NAME is in HIM. But if thou shalt indeed obey HIS Voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. Ex 23:20-22

As I have said along with EGW that Satan was kicked out not on this earth but on place that has soil or is a land mass. He can only deal with YAHSHUA and not the Father and he cannot return inside of Heaven only at the Gate.

Satan trembled as he viewed his work. He was alone in meditation upon the past, the present, and his future plans. His mighty frame shook as with a tempest. An angel from Heaven was passing. He called him and entreated an interview with YAHSHUA. SR p. 26

There is perfect Order and Harmony in the Holy City. All the angels that are commissioned to visit the earth hold a Golden Card, which they present to the angels at the gates of the city as they pass in and out. EW 39

Now there was a day when the sons of ELOHIM came to present themselves before YAHWEH, and Satan came also among them. Job 1:6

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:14

If we would read the text carefully we will see that Satan disguise himself attempting to be a representative of earth. However if he really was he would not have tried to disguise himself among the sons of ELOHIM. He was stopped at the Gate by YAHSHUA who already knew what he was attempting to do but once again fail in front of all the Holy angels and beings of ELOHIM! I hope that you will research this out for yourself.

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Castaway:

Again you misquote me and the Bible. The Feast Days are not the "handwritten ordinances" but Statues. There is a difference between the two. One is directly spoken by YAHWHEH the other was given to Moses to write in a Book call the "the Book of Moses." Statues, Law of ELOHIM, Testimony, Ordinances, Precepts and Commandments are all found in Psa 119 However you will not find the manuscript of laws of Moses in this Chapter. What you fail to see that both were laws but one was to cease with YASHUA:

And HE shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations HE shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Dan 9:27

If you would just think and learn from others and then check it out with prayer and humbleness, you could learn the truth. The Bible states as clear as the nose on your face that only yes only sacrifice and oblations would cease. Have they ceased after YAHSHUA death? Yes once the Temple was destroyed because it too was not needed on this earth any more. Where does it say a day nowhere! You want to take Paul's word and twist them to believe something that was not stated. He clearly said "blotting out the handwritten ordinances." Which is the same thing that Daniel wrote which all dealt with the earthy sanctuary. These are the forms of worship that Paul discusses in Hebrew and EGW writes about in PP. Even you have mentioned them known as the handwritten laws of Moses. Were they given by ELOHIM, again they were but not written by HIM. The Feast Days were written by ELOHIM. Here ye EGW:

In consequence of continual transgression, the Moral Law was repeated in awful grandeur from Sinai. YAHSHUA gave to Moses Religious Precepts which were to govern everyday life. These Statutes were explicitly given to guard the ten Commandments. They were not shadowy types to pass away with the death of YASHUA. They were to be binding upon men in every age as long as time should last. These commands were enforced by the power of the Moral Law, and they clearly and definitely explained that Law (ibid, April 15, 1875).

You need to understand and know the meaning of the Hebrew word Statues in the Bible.

Because that Abraham obeyed MY Voice, and kept MY Charge, MY Commandments, MY Statutes, and MY Laws. Gen 26:5; [chuqqah the feminine of choq: (meaning substantially the same) an enactment; hence an appointment of time.]

But as for thee, stand thou here by me, and I will speak unto thee all the Commandments, and the Statutes, and the Judgments, which thou shalt teach them, that they may do them in the land which I give them to possess it. Deut 5:31; [chuqqah]

The Statutes of YAHWEH are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the YAHWEH is pure, enlightening the eyes. Psa 19:8; [piqqud: properly appointed, that is, a mandate of ELOHIM; plural only, collectively for the Law: - commandment, precept, statute.

That they might observe his Statutes, and keep his Laws. Praise ye YAHWEH. Psa 105:45; [chuqqah]

O that my ways were directed to keep THY Statutes! I have inclined mine heart to perform THY Statutes always, even unto the end. Psa 119:5, 112; [chuqqah]

Listen the Statues were mandates appointed time that's why the Sabbath was included. If all would understand the word feast comes from Latin meaning festa or "holidays; related to feriae "holiday" and fanum "temple." Holiday comes from Old English haligdæg which actually means "holy day." I cannot stress this enough all nations had and still have appointed holy days that originated from ELOHIM before sin! That is what Christmas is a holy day and it is annual and base on the moon all of them are with all nations appointed days. I wish everyone would get it paganisms copies from ELOHIM original Laws, Statues, Judgments and Commandments. They just changed and corrupted them with sex and filth that is all. If you would look across in you dictionary it gives what the word originally meant and where it came from. These other Jewish holidays are not from ELOHIM or ordain by HIM, I can provide you the history on them if you would like to and when they started. So when Paul was making his statement he was correct. The Sabbath is an appointed time and there were no annual sabbaths. These appointed Holy days were the Sabbath, two days in the Unleavened Bread the first the seventh, one day for the Harvest or Firstfruit (Pentecost) which always falls on a Sunday, Blowing of the Trumpet only of the Seventh Month, Day of Atonement (our sabbath), and the Ingathering or Tabernacle two days the first and the eight. There were seven annual appointed times and the Sabbath the weekly which makes eight again that is very significant in the Salvation plan. Now these appointed weekly days fall always on the full moon, which is observe on the fifthteen and twenty first except the Ingathering that fall on the fifthteen and the twenty second for a reason dealing with YAHSHUA and Salvation! They all did but understand what words means is very important. I truly hope you understand now and I am sorry I should have explained this much earlier, just getting old.:doh:

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I did find this article interesting.

Feast Days
Yes; that is a good article. many pertinent scripture references. Especially the enclosed section which I will quote below:
IV. What are some of the arguments for observing Old Testament feast days in modern times?·

Argument A
: The Battle of Armaggedon (Revelation 16:16) is a battle over whose Holy Days we should keep, God’s or Satan’s. This is a stretch. Yes, the Hebrew meggido is from the Hebrew word mo’ed best translated as “appointed meeting” (Leviticus 23:2, 4, 37; Numbers 29:39). The emphasis is on time. And yes, har-mo’ed in Isaiah 14:13, most often translated “mountain of congregation,” or “mountain of assembly,” does focus on the Great Controversy between Christ and Satan.


But, to stretch these renderings of mo’ed into “mount of festivals” is unwarranted. And then to project this new phrase into a last-day issue over who is on God’s side or Satan’s side is another unwarranted leap.
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Argument B: Nowhere does the Bible say that the feast days were only for the Jews. The response is obvious: nowhere does the Bible say that Feast Days were for the Christians after Jesus lived and died. Much to the contrary!

It is more than interesting John, the last of the apostolic writers, referred to the Feast Days always as Jewish celebrations (see 2:13, 6:4; 7:2, 11:55). Never as Christian celebrations! Although Paul referred to them, he looked at the Feast Days as occasions for preaching the gospel—see G.
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Argument C: When Daniel predicted that an apostate Christian power would think to change times and laws (Daniel 7:25), we should recognize that “times” comes from a Chaldean word meaning “seasons.” Thus, God’s intent for His people to keep His original feasts would be attacked even as the seventh-day Sabbath has been attacked. Here it is asserted that “times (seasons) and laws” are all of God’s Holy Days and would all be attacked by apostate powers (initiated by Satan).

However, zinnim (Aramaic for “fixed time”) has no reference to Feast Days. In Daniel 1:21, the same Aramaic is used describing how God alone has the prerogative to change “times.” The emphasis is always on a set time, not on feasts days.

Argument D: In Genesis 1:14, God made the sun and moon “to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons (mo’ed), and for days, and years.” When one unfortunately and without foundation translates mo’ed to be “festival,” there is no end to speculation. Of course, the moon had much to do with the beginning of some of the Feasts, but the emphasis is on the set time for feast itself, not in respect to its observance. For instance, the first month of the Jewish year begins on the first new moon after the spring equinox when the first sliver of the moon can be seen.
Mo’ed is often used to express the “appointed time”; that is, the “season,” the time of the year when birds migrate (Jeremiah 8:7; Genesis 17:21) or when the grapes are ready to be harvested (Hosea 2:9). Mo’ed is never used as a mental trigger to think “festival.”
In Psalm 104:19, God’s creative powers are described: “He made the moon for the seasons.” In practice, the moon determines the fixed times called “months.” In other words, the moon serves a sign of the passage of time.
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Argument E: Whenever the Old Testament mentioned “statutes” we should think “festivals” and thus “festivals” are to be in effect forever.
The Old Testament outlines three forms of “laws”—(1) the Ten Commandments, (2) the sacrificial services, including ceremonial feasts, and (3) the statutes. Most people are aware of the distinction between the Ten Commandments and the types and ordinances in the sacrificial system. Few are clear regarding the purpose of the “statute.”
In 1875, Ellen White wrote a remarkably clear article for the May 6 issue of the Review and Herald magazine. In it she reviews the purposes of each of these three forms of “laws”:
“From the creation the [1] moral law was an essential part of God's divine plan, and was as unchangeable as himself. The [2] ceremonial law was to answer a particular purpose of Christ plan for the salvation of the race. . .
“The law of types [ceremonial laws] reached forward to Christ. All hope and faith centered in Christ until type reached its antitype in his death. The statutes and judgments [3] specifying the duty of man to his fellow-men, were full of important instruction, defining and simplifying the principles of the moral law, for the purpose of increasing religious knowledge, and of preserving God's chosen people distinct and separate from idolatrous nations.
“The statutes concerning marriage, inheritance, and strict justice in deal with one another, were peculiar and contrary to the customs and manners of other nations, and were designed of God to keep his people separate from other nations. The necessity of this to preserve the people of God from becoming like the nations who had not the love and fear of God, is the same in this corrupt age, when the transgression of God's law prevails and idolatry exists to a fearful extent. . . .
“In consequence of continual transgression, the moral law was repeated in awful grandeur from Sinai. Christ gave to Moses religious precepts [statutes] which were to govern the everyday life. These statutes were explicitly given to guard the ten commandments. They were not shadowy types to pass away with the death of Christ. They were to be binding upon man in every age as long as time should last. These commands were enforced by the power of the moral law, and they clearly and definitely explained that law.
“Christians who profess to be Bible students can appreciate more fully than ancient Israel did the full signification of the ceremonial ordinances that they were required to observe. If they are indeed Christians, they are prepared to acknowledge the sacredness and importance of the shadowy types, as they see the accomplishment of the events which they represent. The death of Christ gives the Christian a correct knowledge of the system of ceremonies and explains prophecies which still remain obscure to the Jews. Moses of himself framed no law. Christ, the angel whom God had appointed to go before his chosen people, gave to Moses statutes and requirements necessary to a living religion and to govern the people of God.”

What have we learned? The statutes and judgments are not part of either the moral law or of the ceremonial law. They explain and enforce the moral law, but have no apparent relationship with the ceremonial law. They are not shadowy types to end at the cross; they retain their validity as long as time shall last.

Where do we find these statues and judgments? In Exodus 21 and Deuteronomy 4. They do not typify anything in the plan of salvation; they did not meet their fulfillment at the Cross. They are principles of human conduct. These principles will apply as long as time remains. We today can understand the principle regarding an ox goring someone; today we would think of a dog or our automobile that might injure someone.

Does it not seem strange that Paul and Ellen White would argue so forcefully that the ceremonial law passed away at the Cross but not say a word regarding the Feast Days that some believe now remain? Whatever evidence one may use in support of modern Feast Days, it would have to be very powerful to contradict Paul’s statement that these ceremonial Sabbaths were “shadows of things to come, but the substance is of Christ” (Colossians 2:17). Or to contradict Ellen White’s clear statements about the temporary aspect of the sanctuary services and ceremonial Sabbaths? Or to explain why Ellen White never said a word about the modern observance of the Feast Days.

Paul’s admonition to the Galatians seems appropriate: “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage” (5:1).·

Argument F: Because the Feasts are often connected in the same chapters with the weekly Sabbaths, they hang or fall together.
The weekly Sabbath was established long before Sinai, long before the inauguration of the sanctuary service. It is not a shadow pointing to Jesus and the Cross (Colossians 2:17). In Leviticus 23, some link the weekly Sabbath with the festivals but in a closer look we see that Moses is clearly distinguishing the weekly Sabbath from the festivals. After noting the special aspects of the weekly Sabbath (verse 3), verse 4 begins: “These [the feasts now to be listed] are the feasts of the Lord, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.”
Further differentiation between the six feasts and the weekly Sabbath occurs in verses 37 and 38 after describing the feasts: “These are the feasts of the Lord which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire to the Lord, a burnt offering and a grain offering, a sacrifice and drink offerings, everything on its day—besides the Sabbaths of the Lord, besides your gifts, besides all your vows, and besides all your freewill offerings which you give to the Lord” (NKJV). There is no biblical basis for arguing that the seventh-day Sabbath and the feasts belong together.

Apparently some Jewish converts were still clinging to these sanctuary ceremonies, including the need for circumcision. Further, they were divisive and judgmental toward those who had either abandoned them (Jewish believers) or failed to adopt them (Gentile believers). ·

Argument G: Paul clearly stated, long after the Cross, in Acts 18:21 that he had to hurry back to Jerusalem in order to “keep this feast (Pentecost).” Further, Paul wrote to the Gentile Corinthians (5:7-8) that they should “keep the feast” of Passover. It should be noted that Acts 18:21 is omitted in many translations because “textual evidence favors the omission.” (F. D. Nichols, Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 6, 367).
Of course, some Christians, including Paul, may have observed certain festivals other than the Passover for whatever reason they thought best (to use the event for a platform to preach the gospel no doubt]. But there is no indication that this became a Christian requirement for membership in the new church. After all, God was leading them step by step. They did not see immediately the passing significance of feasts that had been so precious to them prior to Jesus and Calvary.

Other reasons for Paul to hurry back to Jerusalem at the time of a Feast are obvious. Paul’s avowed strategy to win both Jews and Gentiles was revealed in 1 Corinthians 9:19-22. He asserts “I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are without law (not being without law toward God but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law [Gentiles … I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.” This portrays his stratagem to convert Jews and Gentiles by openly fitting into their respective culture systems, without denying Christ in the process.

He knew of the impending destruction of Jerusalem, the temple, and the soon termination of Jewish ritual system. Time was swiftly running out for the Jews, and it was not unreasonable that he (and other Jewish Christians looking for practical evangelistic opportunities) would seek to be present at the festivals as an opportunity to maximize their prospective audience. The Feast celebrations would be the ideal platform to proclaim Christ’s great antitypical sacrifice and high priestly ministry—the meaning and significance of their six annual celebrations.
Since the Bible is silent regarding the keeping of Israelitic feasts after the Cross, it would also be wise for modern Christians to avoid imposing regulations and ceremonies without biblical support.
Some read into a statement from E. G. White that appears, for them, to support the observance of the Feast of Tabernacles today: “Well would it be for the people of God at the present time to have a Feast of Tabernacles—a joyous commemoration of the blessings of God to them. As the children of Israel celebrated the deliverance that God had wrought for their fathers, and His miraculous preservation of them during their journeying from Egypt, so should we gratefully call to mind the various ways He has devised for bringing us out from the world, and from the darkness of error, into the precious light of His grace and truth”(Patriarchs and Prophets, 540).
What is the author saying? She is lauding the blessings that the Israelites once enjoyed during this annual festival. Then, she is recommending that Christians also have occasions when in some sense they come together to celebrate the many blessings that they have received from the Lord. For many, the annual camp meetings have served this purpose as do many weekend rallies and retreats. It would be an unfortunate misinterpretation of White to suggest she is urging the Feast of Tabernacles today. The Israelite Feast was a harvest festival; the Christian’s harvest festival will be celebrated before the throne of God (Revelation 7). The celebration will take place after the harvest, not before.
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Argument H: After the Crucifixion and Christ’s Ascension, the disciples gathered together to celebrate the Feast of Pentecost. If, as most Christians believe, the festivals were part of the ceremonial law that was done away with at the Cross, why did God choose to honor this Feast by sending His Holy Spirit in such a dramatic way. Obviously, the Feast was not cancelled at the Cross. Why did God choose the Jewish Feast of Pentecost to inaugurate the emerging Christian church? Because it was the best time and place where the disciples could launch their missionary outreach. Where else could they have had a greater audience with the memory of Christ’s crucifixion still vivid in their minds? Obviously that was God’s plan. At no other time could the disciples have made a greater impact on Jews traveling in from many countries who could carry home the good news of their Messiah.

Besides, the disciples had not had time to think through the relationship between the sanctuary types, feasts, and ordinances, on one hand, and the glorious freedom of their fulfillment in the life and death of Jesus. Many memories of Pentecost past with all their communal joy and gratitude for God’s blessings were soon to be transferred to the blessings opened up by their Lord’s crucifixion—but that would take time and perhaps the high-powered mind of Paul.
Another reason why these early Christians were eager to celebrate the first Feast of Pentecost after the crucifixion lies in the typical/antitypical relationship between what the Israelites looked forward to fifty days after Passover and what the disciples were beginning to grasp: Fifty days after the Cross they could expect something special—what, they did not know until it happened!
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Argument I:Malachi 4:4 God tells us to “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant, Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel, With the statutes and judgments.” Exactly! Moses here made a clear distinction between the Ten Commandments and the statutes. Nowhere in the Bible are the statutes given the same authority as the Ten Commandments. Much to the contrary! The statutes were given “to guard the Ten Commandments” (see Review and Herald, May 6, 1875 in E above).
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Argument J: The Holy Feasts, along with the weekly Sabbath, will be celebrated in Heaven (Isaiah 66:23; Zechariah 14:16). One wonders where in these verses one can find a connection with the Feasts! Zechariah is looking forward to the return from captivity and what would have happened if Israel truly had fulfilled their opportunity and mission to be the Light to the Gentiles. Isaiah is doing the same but we do not find here any reference to the Feast Days.·
Argument K: In Leviticus 23:14, referring to the Feast of First fruits (Barley harvest), the Israelites were told that the ceremony “shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings” (NKJV). Emphasis rests on the word “forever.” But often in the Bible, the word “forever” does not mean that whatever it is describing will never come to its end (see Exodus 27:21; Leviticus 7:36; 10:9; 17:7; Numbers 10:8; 15:15; 18:23 etal.). Fires come to their end when whatever it is consuming is burned up and thus the fire extinguishes itself. Feasts come to their end when what they point arrives, the type meets antitype, the sanctuary service meets the life and death of Jesus.
“When the Saviour yielded up His life on Calvary, the significance of the Passover ceased and the ordinance of the Lord’s Supper was instituted as a memorial of the same event of which the Passover had been a type” (Patriarchs and Prophets, 539).
“Christ was standing at the point of transition between two economies and their two great festivals. He, the spotless Lamb of God, was about to present Himself as a sin offering, that He would thus bring to an end the system of types and ceremonies that for four thousand years had pointed to His death. As He ate the Passover with His disciples, He instituted in its place the service that was to be the memorial of His great sacrifice. The national festival of the Jews was to pass away forever. The service which Christ established was to be observed by His followers in all lands and through all ages” (The Desire of Ages, 652). ·

Argument L: Jesus kept the various Feasts and as our Example, so should we.
True, Jesus did attend some of the Feasts at Jerusalem and for good reason. When and where else would He have a better opportunity to draw attention away from the rituals to their significance. In John 2:23, for example, “When He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name when they saw the signs which He did.”

In John 7 we are told that “the Jews’ Feast of Tabernacles was at hand” (7:2). .

What did Jesus do at this time? He told his brothers that He would not be going to Jerusalem with them—it was not yet His time. But later He went to Jerusalem, somewhat incognito. Knowing that He would have the opportunity to reach Jews from many countries, He made His move in the middle of the feast week—and “taught.” On the last day of the feast, “Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.” This was hardly the generally accepted way to worship at the Feast of Tabernacles!

What is going on here? Ellen White provides interesting insights: “As the sons of Joseph made preparation to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, they saw that Christ made no movement signifying His intention of attending. They watched Him with anxiety. Since the healing at Bethesda He had not attended the national gatherings. To avoid useless conflict with the leaders at Jerusalem, He had restricted His labors to Galilee. His apparent neglect of the great religious assemblies, and the enmity manifested toward Him by the priests and rabbis, were a cause of perplexity to the people about Him, and even to His own disciples and His kindred. In His teachings He had dwelt upon the blessings of obedience to the law of God, and yet He Himself seemed to be indifferent to the service, which had been divinely established” (DA 450).

“From Jerusalem the report of Christ's miracles had spread wherever the Jews were dispersed; and although for many months He had been absent from the feasts, the interest in Him had not abated. Many from all parts of the world had come up to the Feast of Tabernacles in the hope of seeing Him” (DA 451).

Obviously, before the Cross, at the times of His choosing and for His purposes, Jesus honored the Feasts and other sanctuary ceremonies that He Himself had given to the Israelites. Throughout His three years of ministry, however, He was, step by step, teaching the higher meaning of these ceremonies, anticipating the day when they would be superseded by their real significance at His death. Jesus knew that these Feasts all pointed in some way to His life and death and resurrection. If He kept them as regularly and as “faithfully” as did other Jews, His early disciples would have been thoroughly confused after He ascended. Indeed, they did see on reflection that the Feast Days were not to be observed as “statutes” would be—if they simply remembered the example of their Lord.
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Argument M: Ellen White “knew and understood the truth” about God’s intention to restore the “observance of the ancient feasts” but she did not emphasize this truth for two reasons: 1) she always waited for others to study it out so she could confirm them in their Bible study and 2) this didn’t happen because God in His wisdom knew that it wasn’t the right time. Amazing assumptions without foundation!

Part of the problem lies in the reluctance of some to let Ellen White explain her own use of such key terms such as judgments, statutes, services, precepts, ordinances, laws, rituals, and ceremonies. White defines her own usage of such terms by linking them to the typical Feast Days such as the usage of two key terms 1) “ceremonies” and 2) “types” in relation to the seven days Feast of Unleavened Bread, which followed the Passover:

“The Passover was followed by the seven days' feast of unleavened bread. On the second day of the feast, the first fruits of the year's harvest, a sheaf of barley, was presented before the Lord. All the ceremonies of the feast were types of the work of Christ …the unleavened bread, the sheaf of first fruits, represented the Saviour” (The Desire of Ages, 77, emphasis supplied).

“In this ordinance [foot washing], Christ discharged his disciples from the cares and burdens of the ancient Jewish obligations in rites and ceremonies. These no longer possessed any virtue; for type was meeting antitype in himself, the authority and foundation of all Jewish ordinances that pointed to him as the great and only efficacious offering for the sins of the world….
“If his disciples had not needed this, it would not have been left for them as Christ's last established ordinance in connection with, and including, the last supper. It was Christ's desire to leave to his disciples an ordinance that would do for them the very thing they needed, that would serve to disentangle them from the rites and ceremonies which they had hitherto engaged in as essential, and which the reception of the gospel made no longer of any force. To continue these rites would be an insult to Jehovah. Eating of the body, and drinking of the blood, of Christ, not merely at the sacramental service, but daily partaking of the bread of life to satisfy the soul's hunger, would be in receiving his word and doing his will” (E. G. White, Review & Herald, June 14, 1898, emphasis supplied).

“The Jews had prided themselves upon their divinely appointed services; and they concluded that as God once specified the Hebrew manner of worship, it was impossible that He should ever authorize a change in any of its specifications. They decided that Christianity must connect itself with the Jewish laws and ceremonies. They were slow to discern to the end of that which had been abolished by the death of Christ…in which type had met its antitype, rendering valueless the divinely appointed ceremonies and sacrifices of the Jewish religion” ( The Spirit of Prophecy, Vol. 3, 370, emphasis supplied).

“There are two distinct laws brought to view. One is the law of types and shadows, which reached to the time of Christ, and ceased when type met antitype in his death. The other is the law of Jehovah, and is as abiding and changeless as his eternal throne…. Hence the ceremonial law ceased to be of force at the death of Christ” (E. G. White, The Signs of the Times, July 29, 1886,

“But there is a law which was abolished, which Christ ‘took out of the way, nailing it to his cross.’ Paul calls it ‘the law of commandments contained in ordinances.’ This ceremonial law, given by God through Moses, with its sacrifices and ordinances, was to be binding upon the Hebrews until type met antitype in the death of Christ as the Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world. Then all the sacrificial offerings and services were to be abolished. Paul and the other apostles labored to show this, and resolutely withstood those Judaizing teachers who declared that Christians should observe the ceremonial law” (E. G. White, Signs of the Times, Sept. 4, 1884).·

Argument N: Ellen White is explicit in connecting the Feast Days with the Ten Commandments. We look in vain for these statements. Some refer to The Ministry of Healing, 277-284. These pages are explicitly emphasizing the “statutes,” one of the three “laws” that God gave through Moses to the Israelites—especially the statutes concerning disease prevention, personal cleanliness, diet, personal discipline, health benefits of rejoicing, etc. These principles were to pervade all aspects of their lives wherever they were living.

These statutes, as we discussed above, were designed to “guard the Ten Commandments.” Thus, “God gave to Israel instruction in all the principles essential to physical as well as to moral health, and it was concerning these principles no less than concerning those of the moral law that He commanded them to [observe faithfully]” (The Ministry of Healing, 283). Statutes were never on the same level as the Ten Commandments—they were meant to “guard” and “apply” the principles of the Ten Commandments.

Obviously, these particular statutes would have guarded the commandment against “killing”—both the person and everyone else in the camp. We can easily see how these statutes would encourage young and old to develop self-control and to remember whom it is they should put first in their lives.

In summary, if God’s people had remembered the Ten Commandments given to Adam and observed by Abraham, if they had remembered the covenant made with Abraham, circumcision would never have been instituted and there would have been no necessity for the Ten Commandments to be proclaimed on Sinai. God’s people would have kept His law in their mind as Abraham did and there would have been no need for the additional “statutes” or directions given to Moses to “guard” and “amplify” the Ten Commandments. The ceremonial system was present in practice, unfolding in particulars, as conditions warranted, since the slaying of the first lamb in Eden and in Abel’s example. But the ceremonial system with its Feast Days fulfilled its purpose in the life and death of Jesus. See Patriarchs and Prophets, 364, 365.·

Argument O: The Feast Day services were devised to specifically remind us of the solemnity of the seventh-day Sabbath. It would be interesting to see what biblical instruction would be used to substantiate this argument. The reasoning seems to be that if Adventists are clear on the perpetuity of the seventh-day Sabbath, they should also be equally clear on the perpetuity of the Feast Days, which they argue are equally a package for all time.
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Argument P: The seventh-day Sabbath is a feast day and thus provides an added reason why all the other Feast Days should be observed as well in the Christian Church. This, of course, it another way to restate what has been said before. The only basis for this argument is in Leviticus 23:1-4. These four verses are re-emphasized in verses 37 and 38: after reciting the ”feasts of the Lord which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations,” the singular exception to these feasts is further emphasized, “besides the Sabbaths of the Lord.” Verse 3 is thrown in parenthetically between verse 2 and verses 4-37 where the six Feast Days (including the Passover with the Feast of Unleavened Bread) are described. It seems that Moses wanted to make sure that the Israelites clearly understood that the weekly Sabbaths were distinct and apart from the ceremonial sabbaths and other ordinances.
 
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Romes Christianity has no problem keeping the seven pagan days on the witches wheel.

Christmas easter day of souls ect

what are the dates of the seven feast days you observe and what does each feast day sabbath represent. ?


There are seven annual feast days, but not all of them are called “Sabbaths” in the Scripture (King James' Version). In fact, some of them are to be observed “on the morrow after the Sabbath”, and others were to be on the day just before a “Sabbath”. These Sabbaths are not the 7th day weekly Sabbaths.

Leviticus 23:38,39 KJV- “Beside the Sabbaths of the LORD, …., when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a Sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a Sabbath."

The Apostle Paul referred to these “Sabbaths” as “shadows of things to come.” Colossians 2:16, 17 KJV. He was meaning that these “Sabbaths” were prophetic of where the 7th day weekly Sabbath would occur at the time of the fulfillment of these feasts. There were 12 of these annual “shadow” Sabbaths dispersed among the seven annual feasts. Each one would occur on a 7th day weekly Sabbath when the feast days would meet their fulfillment.

From the schedule for the feasts in Leviticus 23 KJV, all the feasts are scheduled in reference to the first new moon after the spring equinox and the seventh new moon of the year only. These feasts are Passover, on the 14th day of the first month, the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread beginning on the 15th day of this first month, the Wave Sheaf offering always was waved on the 16th day of the first month, and from this day, seven “Sabbaths” were to be counted which equal 49 days, the very next day, the 50 th day was the Day of Pentecost.

“And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days;” Leviticus 23:15, 16 KJV.

All the remaining feasts are scheduled from the seventh new moon. On the 7th new moon is the Feast of Trumpets, on the 10th day of this seventh month is the Day of Atonement, then on the 15th day through the 21st day is the 7 days of the Feast of Tabernacles. An 8th day was added to this feast in Leviticus 23:39 KJV.
 
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Romes Christianity has no problem keeping the seven pagan days on the witches wheel.

Christmas easter day of souls ect

what are the dates of the seven feast days you observe and what does each feast day sabbath represent. ?

Each feast day is not specified in Leviticus as a "Sabbath", as I mentioned above. Also, each feast day represents a different part of the work of Christ in the plan of salvation.

The dates of each feast are different in the Gregorian calendar compared to the Hebrew calendar. The months of the Hebrew calendar always begin with the new moon. Just let me know for which year you wanted the dates of the feast days and I will get them for you.

The ritual observances of the feast days ended when the veil separating the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place in the temple was torn from the top to the bottom (Matthew 27:51). Christ began the fulfillment of the feast days by fulfilling the Jubilee Day of Atonement, the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Wave Sheaf, and the Day of Pentecost.

There are other feast days yet to be fulfilled in the future at the appointed time, the exact time that the ritual service was observed. Even the Jubilee Day of Atonement will have a fulfillment of the remaining portion of the Jubilee prophecy of Isaiah 61, "the day of vengeance of our God." Jesus omitted this part of the prophecy when He read Isaiah 61:1, 2 in the synagogue at Nazareth and then said, "This day is this Scripture fulfilled in your ears." Luke 4:21
 
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The ritual observances of the feast days ended when the veil separating the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place in the temple was torn from the top to the bottom (Matthew 27:51).
This is a very important, Biblical point for people to understand. Thankyou for pointing it out. :)
 
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The feast days here discussed are the seven annual feast days of the Old Testament. The spring feasts (Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits) , Pentacost, and the fall feasts (Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Tabernacles).

Hi,

The First Fruits is not considered an annual feast day because it's not a 'sabbath' and did not require holy convocation.

The feast missing here then is the 8th day of the Feast of the Tabernacle. The first and the Eighth days of the Feast of Tabernacle are annual feast days. The first day represents the Christ 2nd coming (tabernacle with man). The Eighth day represents earth made new when the fields were plowed for the next years.

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Hi,

The First Fruits is not considered an annual feast day because it's not a 'sabbath' and did not require holy convocation.

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Greetings OntheDL,

I would like to comment on your statement about certain observances not being an annual feast day because it's not a "Sabbath".

Some of the feast days were "Sabbaths" and others were not. See Leviticus 23 KJV. These were not "Sabbaths"--Passover, Wave Sheaf, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread and Pentecost.

Passover came a day before a "Sabbath", (see evidence below) Wave Sheaf came "on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it." Lev. 23:11, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread came a day before the first Sabbath in the 7-Sabbath count to the Day of Pentecost (Leviticus 23:15, 16), Pentecost came "on the morrow after the seventh Sabbath, shall ye number 50 days,..." Leviticus 23:15, 16

Leviticus 23:4 “These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.”

This verse shows that all of the feasts mentioned would be “holy convocations”.

You probably noticed that the Wave Sheaf offering was waved “on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.” Leviticus 23:11. Therefore, it was not a “Sabbath” itself, but was to be scheduled on the day after one of the annual “shadow” Sabbaths, (Colossians 2:16, 17).

“The Passover was followed by the seven days' feast of unleavened bread. On the second day of the feast, the first fruits of the year's harvest, a sheaf of barley, was presented before the Lord.” Desire of Ages, 77


Along with the text of Leviticus 23:11, speaking of the “morrow after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it”, the quotation of Ellen White's given above, defines the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread as an annual “shadow” Sabbath.

Leviticus 23:38, 39 show that these annual “shadow” Sabbaths were Sabbaths besides the Sabbath of the Lord.

Leviticus 23:38, 39 “Beside the sabbaths of the LORD,...Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.”

Actually, there were 12 of these “shadow” Sabbaths dispersed among the annual feasts in Leviticus 23 KJV, some of them falling on a feast day, others coming on the “morrow” after one of the feast days, and still others were observed a day before a feast day. Some of them were solely for the calculation to determine the Day of Pentecost.

Requirements for the observance of the annual “shadow” Sabbaths differed from those of the 7th day weekly Sabbath, the Sabbath of the Lord, in that “no servile work” was to be performed on them; whereas, on the 7th day Sabbath, no work, whatsoever, was to be done. The Day of Atonement was the only exception to the requirements of the annual “shadow” Sabbaths, its observance required that no work, whatsoever, should be performed on that day, due to the solemnity and glory of that which it prefigured.
 
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I have a question for those who advocate the keeping of the feast days: how exactly do we keep the feasts? The central theme of all the feasts is the sacrifice. Was sacrifice of Jesus not enough?
In regards to the Sacrifice of Jesus
:Lev_16:34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses.

Heb_10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
 
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The are the moral laws, set in stone by the finger of God. Then there are the ceremonial laws, penned by Moses on paper.

The ceremonial laws are no longer binding; these include the ceremonial sabbaths (small "s") and the feast days. Being written on paper is symbolic, because this set of laws are not eternal, and required for today's Christians.

The moral laws are still binding; these include the 7th day Sabbath (capital "S"). The moral laws are written in stone by God, to symbolize it's eternal nature. These laws will always be, and they aren't simply "rules," they ARE the character of God. These ten tell you EXACTLY who God is, and this is the mind of Christ that we need to have.

We are justified by faith, but the fruits of this faith will reflect God's character - the moral law, the ten commandments.
 
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The are the moral laws, set in stone by the finger of God. Then there are the ceremonial laws, penned by Moses on paper.

The ceremonial laws are no longer binding; these include the ceremonial sabbaths (small "s") and the feast days. Being written on paper is symbolic, because this set of laws are not eternal, and required for today's Christians.

The moral laws are still binding; these include the 7th day Sabbath (capital "S"). The moral laws are written in stone by God, to symbolize it's eternal nature. These laws will always be, and they aren't simply "rules," they ARE the character of God. These ten tell you EXACTLY who God is, and this is the mind of Christ that we need to have.

We are justified by faith, but the fruits of this faith will reflect God's character - the moral law, the ten commandments.
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Martinman: Part One

This will be broke down into parts.I would like to respond to your comments:

There are seven annual feast days, but not all of them are called “Sabbaths” in the Scripture (King James' Version). In fact, some of them are to be observed “on the morrow after the Sabbath”, and others were to be on the day just before a “Sabbath”. These Sabbaths are not the 7th day weekly Sabbaths.

First of all it must be clearly understood that words have be change in the Bible to cause these false claims that YAHWEH had more than two days that were named Sabbath. One was the weekly Sabbath, the other was an annual sabbath in which YAHWEH called our sabbath or a sabbath. I urge you as I have pleaded with others to check out first EGW stated:

I saw that ELOHIM had especially guarded the Bible; yet when copies of it were few, learned men had in some instances changed the words, thinking that they were making it more plain, when in reality they were mystifying that which was plain, by causing it to lean to their established views, which were governed by tradition. But I saw that the Word of ELOHIM, as a whole, is a perfect chain, one portion linking into and explaining another. True seekers for truth need not err; for not only is the Word of ELOHIM plain and simple in declaring the way of life, but the Holy Spirit is given as a guide in understanding the way to life therein revealed. EW p.220

I cannot understand why some here claim that they believe EGW but they actually don't. They become angry because I just replace the Sacred Names which in no way change the sentences or the thought. She clearly saw that learned men had changed words. So what words have they changed? Why they changed the Hebrew word called the Holy Appointed Set Times to the word in English feast and seasons. Both of these words are deceptive and throws out what is actually declare by ELOHIM. Seasons is found in Gen 1:14 and in Lev 23:4 and the word feast(s) is first used in Ex 12:14, 23:14-16, 34:18, 22; Lev 23:2, 4. The reasons why these words are so deceptive is both their meaning and how they are word used for pagan activities or services. First let's look at the English words, first seasons its meaning and its origin.

Seasons: time of the year - 1. One of the four equal periods into which the year is divided by the equinoxes and solstices, resulting from the apparent movement of the sun north and south of the equator during the course of the earth's orbit around it. These periods (spring, summer, autumn, and winter) have their characteristic weather conditions in different regions, and occur at opposite times of the year in the N and S hemispheres. 7. Any of the major periods into which the ecclesiastical calendar is divided, such as Lent, Advent, or Easter 8. Sometimes capital) Christmas (especially in the phrases compliments of the season, Season's greetings). Word Origin A season in Old French, seson, was a time of sowing, from the Latin noun satio, sationis ‘seed-time.’ The labels of our seasons are among the oldest words in English, except for autumn. Bill Casselman's Canadian Word of the Day

Harvest time in ancient Italy belonged to the god of reaping, whom the Romans called Saturn. A symbol curved like his sickle represents the planet.
Saturn (associated with the Greek titan, Cronos) is closely connected with Ceres (Demeter), as he is her father, and his worshipers continued honoring him at Rome along with Zeus or Jupiter, another one of Saturn's children. He is an ancient Roman god of Fertility, especially of Agriculture. He was also the major Roman deity of Time. He carried a sickle as his symbol. His name was/is used for the day of the week, Saturday. Saturn was worshiped in a winter festival called the Saturnalia, which occurred around the time of the winter solstice. The Saturnalia began on December 17; originally the ritual only lasted for one day. In later years, however, the celebration lasted for seven days. It consisted of a winter solstice celebration marked by carnival, exchange of gifts, feasting, license and misrule, and a cessation of all public works. Masters served slaves; kings were chosen by lot, usually from among criminals or slaves, to preside over the feast, given ass ears, and then slain. A sacrificial victim was chosen to represent both the god himself and the king-surrogate. He was slain and sent to the underworld to merge with his divine counterpart. Its riotous indulgence is the source of the phrase Saturnalia of crime. It is said to have merged into the Christmas festival. Wordsources.info *


* Notice the pagan symbol which is a cross please go on the site!

This is very interesting because the Hebrew mo'ed is the word used in Gen 1:14 and in Lev 23:4 but we will come back to the Hebrew meaning of the word. Next we look up the dictionary word for feast and the history origin of this pagan word.

Feast:1-a : an elaborate and usually abundant meal often accompanied by a ceremony or entertainment; 2: a periodic religious observance commemorating an event or honoring a deity, person, or thing. Merriam-Webster Dictionary online

Now here is the pagan origin of the word:

Festivals in ancient Rome were an important part of Roman religious life during both the Republican and Imperial eras, and one of the primary features of the Roman calendar. Feriae ("holidays" in the sense of "holy days." . . .Varro defined feriae as "days instituted for the sake of the gods. From Wikipedia Roman Festivals

It is clear that these two pagan words replace the Hebrew words that meant something totally different but yet there some similar and quite interesting. "Moed" is the word that is mainly used throughout the Scriptures and it gives the appointed set time by the FATHER. These are HIS Holy Appointed Set Time given for you to worship and honor HIM. The word "chag" is to make a pilgrimage three times:

Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. Thou shalt keep the Holy Appointed Set Time of Unleavened Bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the Time Appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) And the Holy Appointed Set Time of Harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the Holy Appointed Set Time of Ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. Ex 23:14-16

Never did YAHWEH call any of these days Sabbath, HE called them Holy Convocation or Holy Assembly. Now if you read the Strong Definition of the word "chag," he proves that he also attempts to hide the true meaning of this word. This is what he states:

A festival, or a victim therefor: - (solemn) feast (day), sacrifice, solemnity.

But here is the word by the SDA Commentary!

The word translated “feast” in this chapter is from one or the other of two Hebrew words: (1) Mo‘ed, an appointed meeting (used, for example, in Lev. 23:2, 4, 37; Num. 29:39). (2) Chag, a festival (used, for example, in Lev. 23:6, 34, 39, 41; Num. 28:17; 29:12). The two words are sometimes used interchangeably, though mo‘ed stresses the time of the feast, “set feasts” (Num. 29:39); chag, the character of the feast. Chag is derived from a verb that has, as one of its possible meanings, “to make a pilgrimage,” “to take a journey to an object of reverence
There is therefore no contradiction between the statement in Exodus, that the Israelites were to “keep a feast” “three times” “in the year” (Ex. 23:14), and the listing, in Leviticus, of six annual feasts (see also Num. 28, 29). Each of these six feasts is described as a mo‘ed, but three of them are also designated chag. In other words, there were six mo‘ed but only three chag. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia describes these three as “pilgrimage festivals.” The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Vol. p. 1800

So why would Strong change this word calling a Holy Appointed Set Time but adding "or a victim therefore?" Well the answer is here also false pagan worship of Saturn and here is what the Romans did on pagan day: "A sacrificial victim was chosen to represent both the god himself." It is clear that Strong was defining the pagan definition instead the truth from ELOHIM.

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Martinman: Part Two

“Beside the Sabbaths of the LORD, …., when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a Sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a Sabbath." Leviticus 23:38,39 KJV

Again words are change in this Scripture as well but let us look at how this it should be completely read.

These are the Holy Appointed Set Times of YAHWEH, which ye shall proclaim to be Holy Public Assemblies, to offer an offering made by fire unto YAHWEH, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, everything upon his day: Beside the Sabbaths of YAHWEH, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto YAHWEH. Also in the fifteenth day of the Seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a Holy Appointed Set Time unto YAHWEH seven days: on the first day shall be a Special Holy day, and on the eighth day shall be a Special Holy day. Lev 23:37-39

Here once again words have been changed to make a lie and not the truth at all! The word "shabbâthôn" mean a Special Holy day. It is not called a Sabbath and this is not what the Hebrew word mean. But those who wanted to make it appear that both the Sabbath and the other Holy Appointed Set Times were all for just the Jews and nailed to YASHUA'S cross and they were not. First of all they never belong to Israel or any man at all they belong to YAHWEH. I dare anyone to dispute this point along with this word!

The Apostle Paul referred to these “Sabbaths” as “shadows of things to come.” Colossians 2:16, 17 KJV. He was meaning that these “Sabbaths” were prophetic of where the 7th day weekly Sabbath would occur at the time of the fulfillment of these feasts. There were 12 of these annual “shadow” Sabbaths dispersed among the seven annual feasts. Each one would occur on a 7th day weekly Sabbath when the feast days would meet their fulfillment.

Paul never said these "Sabbaths" this is what he actually said:

No one should decide for you in spiritual matters. Now if we are referring to Holy matters, the reason that Paul used the word meat and drink is significant to YASHUA'S Supper because you are eating what bread and drinking what grape juice and not any alcoholic beverage. Prov 20:1 Paul continues with in your respect for Holy Appointed Set Time, or coming to worship the first day of each month based on the New moon and not the Sun:

Blow up the trumpet in the New moon, in the time appointed, on our Three Public Assembly Holy Appointed Set days. For this was a Statute for Israel, and a Law of ELOHIM of Jacob. Psa 81:3, 4

H appointed the moon for Holy Appointed Set Times: the sun knoweth his going down. Psa 104:19

And it shall come to pass, that from one New moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before ME, saith YAHWEH. Isa 66:23


Then Paul said of the Sabbath he did not put days in there the King James Scribes did! Once again attempting to change words in the Bible. These scribes were a part of the Anglican Church who basic belief came from the Catholic Church. Henry the VIII wanted to divorce all or his wives and because the Catholic Church did frown on this he separated but kept all of the other rites even today. So they were attempting to change ELOHIM'S Holy Appointed Set Time, and His Commands or Laws! The word shadow actually means adumbrate which comes from the Latin meaning "to represent in outline,"(TheFreeDictionary).

All of the Holy Days are Holy Appointed Set Time including the Sabbath:

Well, if there were a better example of MOED as a catch-all word, it would be no better than here. Feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths are all MOEDIM. Even those arguing that Shabbat is not a Moed will state that the feasts are, and of course the new moon must be as well, so how preposterous to claim that Shabbat alone is not a Moed? IS SHABBAT A MOED? by David Pollina

These Holy Days are an outline of the Salvation Plan of YAHSHUA if not the SDA would not have come to the Day of Atonement and the understanding of Investigated Judgment!

From the schedule for the feasts in Leviticus 23 KJV, all the feasts are scheduled in reference to the first new moon after the spring equinox and the seventh new moon of the year only. These feasts are Passover, on the 14th day of the first month, the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread beginning on the 15th day of this first month, the Wave Sheaf offering always was waved on the 16th day of the first month, and from this day, seven “Sabbaths” were to be counted which equal 49 days, the very next day, the 50 th day was the Day of Pentecost.

“And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days;” Leviticus 23:15, 16 KJV.

All the remaining feasts are scheduled from the seventh new moon. On the 7th new moon is the Feast of Trumpets, on the 10th day of this seventh month is the Day of Atonement, then on the 15th day through the 21st day is the 7 days of the Feast of Tabernacles. An 8th day was added to this feast in Leviticus 23:39 KJV.

First the passover has never been call a Holy Appointed Set Time is was a supper to start the beginning of the Holy Appointed Set Time of Unleavened Bread. You will not find any of the apostles keeping this supper. However in Acts the Holy Appointed Set Times were kept by them. This was changed by the Jews not ELOHIM!

And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of Unleavened Bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost. Act 20:6, 16

But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost. 1 Corinthians 16:8

If you notice the false teachings of the Pharisees that the day of the wave sheaf was to be waved on the 16th of Abib (Nisan) is totally wrong. Everything of the sacrificial rituals was actually done by the MESSIAH! The SDA church teaches that YAHSHUA was crucified in the year 31AD. The Bible proves that this day is correct along with Desire of Ages. The Holy Appointed Set Times were Holy Public Assemblies, the count was from the weekly Sabbath that always comes into play with the seven day week Holy Set Times. Unleavened Bread had a Sabbath so if you start counting tomorrow after it would be Sunday the first of week. This day was when the wave sheaf was to be waved always:

Among the Sadducees, of whom the leading priests were the chief representatives, some believed that “the morrow after the sabbath” (Lev. 23:15, 16) meant the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, not the festival sabbath. In that case Thursday could have been the 14th day according to the moon, but Friday the 14th according to the official calendar, or at least according to the priestly officials who took Jesus to Pilate but would not enter his palace because they were observing the Passover on Friday evening. There is no record in Jewish literature of such a difference in observance, though there is reference to attempts to manipulate the calendar by such parties (see Talmud Ross Hashanah 22b and Note 7 in Soncino ed., p.95). The SDA Bible Commentary, Vo. 5 p. 257

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So who was right the Pharisees who taught the oral laws that became written called the Talmud? These were the lawyers and are the Rabbinical School of thought today! They were the one who constantly harassed YAHSHUA and they were the ones that the Millerites dates they chose not to follow.

Confronted by rival Jewish calendars (the rabbanite and the Karaite), the Millerites deliberately rejected the rabbinical and adopted the Karaite principle of calendation, the decisive factor being the barley harvest principle in relation to the Passover full moon, as embodied in the original Mosaic instruction. How The Millerites Chose Oct. 22 By Grace E. Amadon From the archives of Andrews University Center for Adventist Research Grace Amadon Collection

Ancient Instruction to Be Studied.—The instructions given to Moses for ancient Israel, with their sharp, rigid outlines, are to be studied and obeyed by the people of ELOHIM today (Letter 259, 1903).

Even though the Sadducees had also become corrupted they hung on to some truth especially the wave sheaf that always fell on a Sunday the next day after the Sabbath of Unleavened Bread. The Bible proves this as well because YAHSHUA followed HIS FATHER'S Commands:

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. YAHSHUA saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing HIM to be the gardener, saith unto HIM, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid HIM, and I will take HIM away. YAHSHUA saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, RABBONI; which is to say, MASTER. YAHSHUA saith unto her, Touch ME not; for I AM not yet ascended to MY FATHER: but go to MY brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and your FATHER; and to MY ELOHIM, and your ELOHIM. John 20:1, 15-17

YAHSHUA arose from the dead as the First Fruits of those that slept. HE was the antitype of the wave sheaf, and HIS Resurrection took place on the very day when the wave sheaf was to be presented before YAHWEH. For more than a thousand years this symbolic ceremony had been performed. DA p 785

Correctly on the correct day YAHSHUA became the WAVE SHEAF and HE was not the passover on the cross but the burnt offering. HE became our PASSOVER in the Garden.

And there appeared an angel unto HIM from Heaven, strengthening HIM. And being in an agony HE prayed more earnestly: and HIS Sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. Luke 22:43, 44

As YAHSHUA felt HIS Unity with the FATHER broken up, HE feared that in HIS Human nature HE would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the powers of darkness
. . . With the issues of the conflict before HIM, YAHSHUA'S Soul was filled with dread of separation from ELOHIM. Satan told HIM that if HE became the surety for a sinful world, the separation would be eternal. HE would be identified with Satan’s kingdom, and would nevermore be one with ELOHIM.
. . . The sins of men weighed heavily upon YAHSHUA, and the sense of ELOHIM'S Wrath against sin was crushing out HIS Life.

. . .They saw HIS Face marked with the bloody sweat of agony, and they were filled with fear. HIS anguish of mind they could not understand. "HIS Visage was so marred more than any man, and HIS Form more than the sons of men." Isa. 52:14. DA 686-690

You nor I cannot express what the SAVIOR endure in the Garden and it here is where HE became our PASSOVER!

Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even YAHSHUA our PASSOVER is sacrificed for us: 1Co 5:7

YAHSHUA took the supper according the Scriptures in Exodus Chapter 12 and the 14th of Abib was on Wed. Apr. 25 31 AD. HE died according to the Continual Burnt Offering on Friday 27, 31 AD.

My only concern with those who are in opposition with me is they do not realize that Satan has attempted to change the truth through translations of the Bible. If we would become like the Berea's to check to see if what I am say is true or not. Don't have a prejudice or close mind but search out these words as I have become more studious of the Word than critic of the person.

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