FCC votes down net neutrality 3-2

[JohnHarthover]

The FCC Just Killed Net Neutrality. Now What?

Good day for the AT&T, Comcast, etc lobbyists! They got their money's worth in Washington and can soon recoup their expenses.

 

[NightHawkeye]

The FCC Just Killed Net Neutrality. Now What?

Good day for the AT&T, Comcast, etc lobbyists! They got their money's worth in Washington and can soon recoup their expenses.

Which means ... the internet is no longer a 1934 utility governed by Title ii of the 1934 federal communications act.

 

[Larniavc]

The FCC Just Killed Net Neutrality. Now What?

Good day for the AT&T, Comcast, etc lobbyists! They got their money's worth in Washington and can soon recoup their expenses.

Damn shame.

I would not look forwards to say, not being able to use FaceTime if I was on AT&T.

Hope nothing like this comes to the UK.

 

[wing2000]

...yes, now the internet providers have new ways to milk consumers.

We already pay way too much for our internet services....MAGA! (for corporate profits)

 

[NightHawkeye]

...yes, now the internet providers have new ways to milk consumers.

We already pay way too much for our internet services....MAGA! (for corporate profits)

Have you considered using the competition?

 

[JohnHarthover]

Damn shame.

I would not look forwards to say, not being able to use FaceTime if I was on AT&T.

Hope nothing like this comes to the UK.

Yeah - in a way, it is hard to believe that AT&T even tried to do that back in 2012, but obviously it makes sense from a business perspective. Its their job to make as much money as possible and the industry is an oligopoly, so there isn't sufficient competition to stop them. Just gotta hope the courts apply an injunction.

 

[JohnHarthover]

Have you considered using the competition?

Do you know what an oligopoly is?

 

[wing2000]

Have you considered using the competition?

I don't have any viable choices.

 

[Hank77]

I don't have any viable choices.

Me either. They bought out my landline company and they are the only cell phone company here that has decent coverage. When you are driving home from work in a snow storm on icy canyon roads you want to know that you have coverage in an emergency.

 

[Cearbhall]

Which means ... the internet is no longer a 1934 utility governed by Title ii of the 1934 federal communications act.

Which is good for whom, apart from the companies themselves? This is an issue where the American people are almost entirely in agreement. This repeal wouldn't have happened if it weren't for corporate interests. Net neutrality would be a given if it weren't for the money involved. There is no upside for any of us.

Have you considered using the competition?

And what happens when the competition does the same thing, or gets bought out, or goes out of business? This is not something that you want to leave to someone who's looking for profit.

 

[Hank77]

...yes, now the internet providers have new ways to milk consumers.

We already pay way too much for our internet services....MAGA! (for corporate profits)

Unless one can afford to pay more it could mean paying for DSL speeds and receiving the old dial-up speeds, which don't work at all to stream anything. There goes lots of Netflix customers like me.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And what happens when the competition does the same thing, or gets bought out, or goes out of business? This is not something that you want to leave to someone who's looking for profit.

Funny how the folks complaining about the monopoly status of the internet ... are the same ones who want to keep it a monopoly. That's just incredibly perverse logic. Free the internet!

I have three viable choices:
1) Cable ISP - costs $55/month with a 250 GByte cap from the worst provider in the country, Mediacom
2) Wireless - by far the best deal. Unlimited hotspot adds $5/month to the bill
3) DSL - by far the worst deal though it's a little less than cable internet. The best thing about DSL is that when one calls to cancel cable for DSL, you get transferred to the nicest customer service people at the cable company and they reduce your rates and get the technical problems fixed.
4) Some folks in this area have the additional choice of another cable ISP.

For those who may not know already, all major wireless providers will be offering ISP services within the next year or so as 5G begins to roll out. I just happen to live in a test area which offers it already. Life is good.

 

[Cearbhall]

Funny how the folks complaining about the monopoly status of the internet ... are the same ones who want to keep it a monopoly. That's just incredibly perverse logic. Free the internet!

Do you even understand the issue of net neutrality? I don't mean to be rude, but it seems like you're talking about something else entirely. If your ideal system is for everything to be a free market with no government regulation, then fine, but stating that isn't very meaningful when applied to the complex reality of the Internet (and access to it).

 

[szechuan]

Which means ... the internet is no longer a 1934 utility governed by Title ii of the 1934 federal communications act.

Are you serious? This will screw up the internet completely. Not only will ISP's have a lot of power but now they can sell there services like Cable Companies. They can also now toggle websites such as this. Congrats, Republicans shot themselves on the foot yet again because they rather side with the modern day oligarchs.

 

[szechuan]

Funny how the folks complaining about the monopoly status of the internet ... are the same ones who want to keep it a monopoly. That's just incredibly perverse logic. Free the internet!

That's not freeing the internet it's just giving more power to the ISP's to screw people over. You really are quite ignorant about this aren't you?

You're going to be paying more for less, Congrats.

 

[szechuan]

I have three viable choices:
1) Cable ISP - costs $55/month with a 250 GByte cap from the worst provider in the country, Mediacom
2) Wireless - by far the best deal. Unlimited hotspot adds $5/month to the bill
3) DSL - by far the worst deal though it's a little less than cable internet. The best thing about DSL is that when one calls to cancel cable for DSL, you get transferred to the nicest customer service people at the cable company and they reduce your rates and get the technical problems fixed.
4) Some folks in this area have the additional choice of another cable ISP.

Net Neutrality won't expand Small businesses which plenty ISP small services were against this.

 

[szechuan]

For those who may not know already, all major wireless providers will be offering ISP services within the next year or so as 5G begins to roll out. I just happen to live in a test area which offers it already. Life is good.

Not true, whatsoever Net Neutrality wasn't the cause as to why Google Fiber isn't available to more people.

 

[Larniavc]

Yeah - in a way, it is hard to believe that AT&T even tried to do that back in 2012, but obviously it makes sense from a business perspective. Its their job to make as much money as possible and the industry is an oligopoly, so there isn't sufficient competition to stop them. Just gotta hope the courts apply an injunction.

That’s the flaw in taking away NN. If there was a true level of competition with no cartel like behaviour it would be fine.

The free market is not an adequate check or balance for many areas of the US with only one provider in the area.

 

[Larniavc]

Have you considered using the competition?

That’s the thing. In many areas there is only one provider so no completion to drive better service.

 

[szechuan]

That’s the flaw in taking away NN. If there was a true level of competition with no cartel like behaviour it would be fine.

The free market is not an adequate check or balance for many areas of the US with only one provider in the area.

Not only that but they're going to toggle your internet, they're going to cap your internet use now and you're gonna be paying A LOT more for WORSE SERVICE.