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Fake News (why russia is not the only proof of it existing)

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He didn't begin with that.
I didn't say that he did.
That was but one of his examples
That was his first example amongst his rules. I don't disagree with his thinking about bias in media but his rules would apply equally to Conservative News and was stated as such by those who pushed Conservative news during the 70's on.

ON the contrary, when it comes to the propensity of cops to shoot blacks, studies have been done in simulations where it was shown that police were more inclined to pause even longer when it comes to shooting black suspects.
You are probably referring to some recent studies which show are beginning to hesitate more when confronting blacks because of all of the press which has shed a bad light on cop shootings. This, though, is not the case when studying the shootings over the past 15 years.
Well there you go.
You have accepted his position as valid.
I accepted part of his position. That biasness can shape news stories but since his facts were false he only proved his own conservative bias. If he had actual facts, he could also prove liberal bias.
We have no disagreement on the central thesis of his video and the central thesis that I have been putting forth here.
I believe so.

The viewership of left wing sources is ten time that of right wing sources.
Well, no one has offered a study which shows what sources are truly left wing. The Pew Report which was given shows the viewership not the reporting.
Not sure if you will agree with these guys but you can check it out to see how their lists of bias in the news may coincide with yours. Click on the menu and they have a list of categories you can check.
Media Bias/Fact Check News - Media Bias/Fact Check
 
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but why do it on the fourth of july, again think of it this way. Why not do it on cinco demayo? (slavery was just as bad there. (source:Slavery in Mexico : Mexico History).
Where does Kaepernick live? It is really simply to know why he chose the 4th.

If someone did it on cinco demayo, ther would be a liberal outrage.
Liberals could care less when he made those tweets. You really need a chill pill.

But somehow rebelling against american patriotism is both millienial and cool now. And the media is partially at fault.
Anyone who makes a big deal out of this is at fault. What do you think that he wants? Attention. So, just like the streaker issue, don't give him a big forum and he will slowly fade away.
every country in the world tries to hack our elections, why address only russia?
Can you provide any proof that other countries were hacking the election? Russia was hacking and trying to effect the outcome of the election and that investigation needs to be played out until they understand how to keep it from happening again.
 
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This one was enough for me. You have made so many 'fake statements' that I'm done wasting my time.


We've been hearing for 2 years from CNN that Trump is finished! But the truth is, It Is the End of CNN
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in lou to katie griffin's (trump broke me)

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Where does Kaepernick live? It is really simply to know why he chose the 4th.


Liberals could care less when he made those tweets. You really need a chill pill.


Anyone who makes a big deal out of this is at fault. What do you think that he wants? Attention. So, just like the streaker issue, don't give him a big forum and he will slowly fade away.

Can you provide any proof that other countries were hacking the election? Russia was hacking and trying to effect the outcome of the election and that investigation needs to be played out until they understand how to keep it from happening again.

I suppose filing complaints against those who burn the american flag, is too radical for you. Well, I guess we know where your allegiances lie. Not with the US constitution. Nor america. Thats just like MAMA, make america mexico again (as opposed to MAGA make america great again)
 
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I suppose filing complaints against those who burn the american flag, is too radical for you.
I am a Libertarian so I believe in the rights of citizens to do with their private property what they choose as long as it doesn't violate the rights of other. A flag is a symbol and burning it hurts no sane person.
Well, I guess we know where your allegiances lie. Not with the US constitution.
It looks like you have no idea what is in the US Constitution. Nothing Kaepernick did violates one item of that document but you would if you stopped him from exercising his rights.

Nor america.
True Americans fight to protect the rights of each individual. Since you don't, that makes you un-American and anti US Constitution.
 
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I am a Libertarian so I believe in the rights of citizens to do with their private property what they choose as long as it doesn't violate the rights of other. A flag is a symbol and burning it hurts no sane person.

It looks like you have no idea what is in the US Constitution. Nothing Kaepernick did violates one item of that document but you would if you stopped him from exercising his rights.


True Americans fight to protect the rights of each individual. Since you don't, that makes you un-American and anti US Constitution.
thank you for your honesty, but we are very different on this issue. I think your kind is part of the unpatriotic problem in america.
 
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Rush on fake news:

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Partial transcript as follows (courtesy of RushLimbaugh.com):

Hey, let me ask you a question, folks. How many people over the course of your life, over the course of the recent past, months, years, how many people do you know that constantly complain about the media? Everybody, right? Everybody’s always complaining about the media. So over this past weekend I had somebody say, “Do you believe what Trump is doing to CNN?”

I said, “What do you mean what Trump is doing to CNN? It’s not what Trump is doing to CNN. It’s what CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post are doing to Trump!”

So many people have complained to me about the media for all of my life, the entire portion of my life that I’ve been doing this program. “Something’s got to be done. We’ve got to do something. Why doesn’t somebody do something about the media?” And here comes Donald Trump doing something about the media and people are getting nervous. Not everybody. Some people are obviously very supportive and happy about this.

I think it was last week or the week before, I forget which, but I openly stated on this program that we are witnessing the decline and eventual demise of CNN. And that statement was picked up by several in the Drive-By Media, and panels were assembled to discuss my premise. “Do you really think,” it was asked on Fox News, “do you really think this could be the end of CNN?” It is the end of CNN.

My point about this, a lot of people are nervous. Trump supporters are nervous about the tweet. Not everybody, but some Trump supporters are nervous about the tweeting and they’re nervous about him taking on CNN. For everybody who’s wanted something done about the media, this is what it looks like. For everybody’s who’s complained about “inside-the-Beltway-itis” and how it happens and says we need to drain the swamp or whatever, this is what it looks like.

It was never gonna be pretty. It was never going to appear rational or normal. I mean, this is a huge battle taking place that Donald Trump is waging single-handedly. Now, he’s got his supporters out there, don’t misunderstand. The social media army is out there supporting, and he’s not alone in this. But in terms of electoral politics he pretty much is alone in this, and he continues to take it to them. And they clearly do not know how to deal with Trump.

When I saw this, I was jealous. I was jealous that I didn’t do this. The video of Trump body slamming a CNN logo. I said, “This is great.” Trump didn’t do it. He just retweeted it. But it was clever, it was funny, and it illustrated once again that modern-day journalism and modern-day liberalism have zero sense of humor. The serious outrage that this was met with is highly illustrative of just where modern-day liberalism is and who they really are.

I mean, CNN literally went bat crazy over this. They were acting like this is a direct assault on all members of the media. This is promoting violence against the media. Meanwhile, the only people being shot out there are Republicans. The only people being shot are Republicans, and they are deranged supporters of liberals like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, and they are listening to all the rhetoric that the Drive-By Media, including CNN, is using to make them insane, to rev them up.

Here comes a guy on our side of the aisle using clever satire and parody, putting the CNN logo over the face of Vince McMahon, a video tape of Trump at a Wrestlemania a long time ago, CNN logo. (laughing) CNN can’t take it. CNN goes bonkers, claiming that this is going to cause violence against journalists. Meanwhile, the only violence taking place is against Republicans, and it is with guns, and it’s being perpetrated by deranged followers of left-wing news such as CNN, the New York Times, the Huff and Puffing Post, you name it.

I thought it was hilarious and funny. But it made some people nervous is my point. I saw a lot of people over the weekend and they said, “It’s just not presidential.” I said, “Look, the problem is Trump didn’t start this.” And I reminded every one of these people how every time I’ve talked to them over the years, at one point or another there’s widespread complaining about the media. And there’s always somebody in the group, “Somebody’s gotta do something.” Well, somebody is. And this is what it looks like.

This is exactly what it looks like, whether you’re taking on the media or whether you’re taking on any other branch of the Washington ruling class or establishment. I think while people are aware of the dislike and the unpopularity of establishmentarians of Donald Trump, I don’t think people have a full-fledged correct understanding of the sheer, raw hatred for Trump that they have. And that kind of hatred that they are carrying with them every day is dangerous. It’s destructive. It’s distorting. It is almost dehumanizing in a way."


Limbaugh: 'It Is the End of CNN' - Breitbart
 
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Rush on fake news:

"
Partial transcript as follows (courtesy of RushLimbaugh.com):

Hey, let me ask you a question, folks. How many people over the course of your life, over the course of the recent past, months, years, how many people do you know that constantly complain about the media? Everybody, right? Everybody’s always complaining about the media. So over this past weekend I had somebody say, “Do you believe what Trump is doing to CNN?”

I said, “What do you mean what Trump is doing to CNN? It’s not what Trump is doing to CNN. It’s what CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post are doing to Trump!”

So many people have complained to me about the media for all of my life, the entire portion of my life that I’ve been doing this program. “Something’s got to be done. We’ve got to do something. Why doesn’t somebody do something about the media?” And here comes Donald Trump doing something about the media and people are getting nervous. Not everybody. Some people are obviously very supportive and happy about this.

I think it was last week or the week before, I forget which, but I openly stated on this program that we are witnessing the decline and eventual demise of CNN. And that statement was picked up by several in the Drive-By Media, and panels were assembled to discuss my premise. “Do you really think,” it was asked on Fox News, “do you really think this could be the end of CNN?” It is the end of CNN.

My point about this, a lot of people are nervous. Trump supporters are nervous about the tweet. Not everybody, but some Trump supporters are nervous about the tweeting and they’re nervous about him taking on CNN. For everybody who’s wanted something done about the media, this is what it looks like. For everybody’s who’s complained about “inside-the-Beltway-itis” and how it happens and says we need to drain the swamp or whatever, this is what it looks like.

It was never gonna be pretty. It was never going to appear rational or normal. I mean, this is a huge battle taking place that Donald Trump is waging single-handedly. Now, he’s got his supporters out there, don’t misunderstand. The social media army is out there supporting, and he’s not alone in this. But in terms of electoral politics he pretty much is alone in this, and he continues to take it to them. And they clearly do not know how to deal with Trump.

When I saw this, I was jealous. I was jealous that I didn’t do this. The video of Trump body slamming a CNN logo. I said, “This is great.” Trump didn’t do it. He just retweeted it. But it was clever, it was funny, and it illustrated once again that modern-day journalism and modern-day liberalism have zero sense of humor. The serious outrage that this was met with is highly illustrative of just where modern-day liberalism is and who they really are.

I mean, CNN literally went bat crazy over this. They were acting like this is a direct assault on all members of the media. This is promoting violence against the media. Meanwhile, the only people being shot out there are Republicans. The only people being shot are Republicans, and they are deranged supporters of liberals like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, and they are listening to all the rhetoric that the Drive-By Media, including CNN, is using to make them insane, to rev them up.

Here comes a guy on our side of the aisle using clever satire and parody, putting the CNN logo over the face of Vince McMahon, a video tape of Trump at a Wrestlemania a long time ago, CNN logo. (laughing) CNN can’t take it. CNN goes bonkers, claiming that this is going to cause violence against journalists. Meanwhile, the only violence taking place is against Republicans, and it is with guns, and it’s being perpetrated by deranged followers of left-wing news such as CNN, the New York Times, the Huff and Puffing Post, you name it.

I thought it was hilarious and funny. But it made some people nervous is my point. I saw a lot of people over the weekend and they said, “It’s just not presidential.” I said, “Look, the problem is Trump didn’t start this.” And I reminded every one of these people how every time I’ve talked to them over the years, at one point or another there’s widespread complaining about the media. And there’s always somebody in the group, “Somebody’s gotta do something.” Well, somebody is. And this is what it looks like.

This is exactly what it looks like, whether you’re taking on the media or whether you’re taking on any other branch of the Washington ruling class or establishment. I think while people are aware of the dislike and the unpopularity of establishmentarians of Donald Trump, I don’t think people have a full-fledged correct understanding of the sheer, raw hatred for Trump that they have. And that kind of hatred that they are carrying with them every day is dangerous. It’s destructive. It’s distorting. It is almost dehumanizing in a way."


Limbaugh: 'It Is the End of CNN' - Breitbart

You are using Rush Limbaugh's opinion as evidence of left wing fake news?

Pot, meet kettle ...
 
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thank you for your honesty, but we are very different on this issue. I think your kind is part of the unpatriotic problem in america.
Patriotism is not demanding that others conform to your personal idealogy. Patriotism is respecting the right of your fellow Americans to be different and defending their rights.
 
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Patriotism is not demanding that others conform to your personal idealogy. Patriotism is respecting the right of your fellow Americans to be different and defending their rights.
nice try, now your just searching. Patriotism does not entail defacing government property, and defaming a national independence holiday.
 
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nice try, now your just searching. Patriotism does not entail defacing government property, and defaming a national independence holiday.
Where has anyone defaced government property? You haven't said anything about that. That is illegal but a person has the right to deface their own property. Kaepernick has the right not to like a national holiday.

No one has to conform to your narrow definition of American.
 
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Where has anyone defaced government property? You haven't said anything about that. That is illegal but a person has the right to deface their own property. Kaepernick has the right not to like a national holiday.

No one has to conform to your narrow definition of American.

again he does not have to celebrate the holiday, thats fine. But don't show patriotism to another country on the most patriotic holiday of the year.
 
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Patriotism is not demanding that others conform to your personal ideology. Patriotism is respecting the right of your fellow Americans to be different and defending their rights.

In truth, patriotism is neither.
Patriotism in the American context is demonstrating love of America and of American values.

Crapping on the American flag is not illegal, but it is also not patriotic and it is not something worthy of respect.

Defending people who crap on America is not what patriotic Americans do.

For example, the proper response to someone degrading your wife would not be to say that you are showing your love for her by respecting the person who is degrading her.
If a man does that the wife would have every right to believe that her man does not think very much of her.
 
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fake news is all about showing how no one including the presidents wife, flotus. does not want to hold or shake trumps hand. In poland again some media sources jump on this fake news band wagon again and say that the first lady of poland did not want to shake trumps hand. Is this preschool? Are we petty little children, that the MSM has to entertain us with a fake stuff like this? Negative news sells. So keep an eye out for fake news. Many times it comes in the form of negativity of trump, a new harvard study suggests.

Harvard Study Reveals Huge Extent of Anti-Trump Media Bias

CNN reporter gets caught tweeting deceptively edited, Trump-mocking video from Poland
 
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