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YesWas that a typo concerning the Romans and Lutherans use of “unleavened” bread. I thought Rome was looked down upon for using leavened bread instead of unleavened bread for the Eucharist.
We ARE His workmanshipReally it’s not that hard to figure out.
Ephesians 2: NASB
8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. (NASB)
We have to become His workmanship.
Marty and Frank discuss it.
Sure address the OP and we can discuss what you want according to the subject. Seems like good manners to do so.If one answers the questions im asking it wouldn't make me want to pull my hair out.
That seems to be the key term in the passage linking two concepts. Thank you.We ARE His workmanship
Sure address the OP and we can discuss what you want according to the subject. Seems like good manners to do so.
The OP was very simple. It’s on the relationship of works to our salvation. The key word in the transition is God’s workmanship.I and many others have already done so. It is YOU who are dodging questions and ignoring arguments. Address the many arguments and Scripture passages that have been given and stop being purposely obtuse.
The OP was very simple. It’s on the relationship of works to our salvation. The key word in the transition is God’s workmanship.
How all the posts on works based Salvation, circumcision and loss of salvation relate to the simple truth of as those in Christ being the workmanship of God created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life, is simply off subject.
In fact a deflection from the actual text quoted.
The OP was very simple. It’s on the relationship of works to our salvation. The key word in the transition is God’s workmanship.
How all the posts on works based Salvation, circumcision and loss of salvation relate to the simple truth of as those in Christ being the workmanship of God created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life, is simply off subject.
In fact a deflection from the actual text quoted.
You are spouting word salad. Speak plainly. Do you assert that the phrase "God's workmanship" proves Sola Fide? If so explain why.
And no, they are not deflections. I can speak for myself and what i posted to you all dealt with the matter of grace in salvation. You have been very insulting to everyone here who took the time to bother with this thread.
Only three people answered the OP.What concerns me is we can address their scripture quotes but they don’t address ours.
Well that corrected one problem.Correcting a heresy with heresy doesn't make it legitimate.
There was already a church that stood against papism and had much more claim to being the church then any denomination of the reformation.
You mean the Nazi false premise. That was so loaded just peeling the fallacy away would have been a waste of time.You are the only one who hasn't answered anything.
You posted a video of a man in a nice pious hat (I do like the hat) with no explanation of your own. Was that “your answer” his answer?And no, they are not deflections. I can speak for myself and what i posted to you all dealt with the matter of grace in salvation.
Address the text and let’s see.No your views are just irrational and the rejection of reason (and scripture too).
We are all children of wrath, by God’s Grace while we were dead in our transgressions made us alive in Christ
Grace is a gift of God. We are saved by Grace. Not works. Pretty clear.
We are God’s workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand.
You posted a video of a man in a nice pious hat (I do like the hat) with no explanation of your own. Was that “your answer” his answer?
countless text has already been shown to you, and right now you are just responding like a child.Address the text and let’s see.
countless text has already been shown to you, and right now you are just responding like a child.
You obviously have no care at all what the text says and have been showing this butt hurt attitude because this thread only resulted in you getting dismantled by everybody else through scripture. You are likely going to reply with "see no scripture" and ignore past attempts and other posts here.
You were given a question to rationalize the doctrine, but your answer is just "nah.. i don't need to answer". You want to force it into a bible only debate so you can remain crafty and force down your narrow interpretation abilities which is why you reject, ignore, and undermine logic and reason being brought into the discussion.
All but the actual quoted text in Ephesians 2.countless text has already been shown to you,
The doctrine? Paul’s doctrine?You were given a question to rationalize the doctrine,
All but the actual quoted text in Ephesians 2.
The doctrine? Paul’s doctrine?
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