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We are discussing science and you stated that people who prescribe to the theory of evolution are racists and facists. I can describe to you christians who are murders, racists and facists.
You think that way because you do not understand that level of authority has nothing to do with sexism. You do not understand responsibility is not a right but earned. You cannot see that nationalism is not bad where everyone is working together for the whole and not the individual.
Don't bother. When you're writing anything to LittleNipper, imagine that you're talking to some glassy-eyed drooling mouth-breather who's eyes point in different directions, and who is only capable of reciting playground taunts and laughing at whatever he says. I'm not saying LittleNipper is like that. But I do think he'll give your comments the same level of consideration as the sort of person I just described.
You think the way you do because you
a bit subjective, but NOT at all a reason to have any doubt what so ever in the theory that we evolved from apes or are not still apes. At least your mostly honest.
but we are good at making fairly good assumption based on all we know which my be very little for all we know. We can take skulls of different people and make wrong assumption about being ape or not. you did it with dogs didnt you. you couldnt tell some were even a dog. yet we are to believe or assume we KNOW whether the skull is ape or human. They did take aboriginies and take there skulls to show they were close to apes. back in the day.But in the biology of animals, speciation is determined by whether two recognizeably distinct populations can and will interbreed. It they either can't, (because they're physically or genetically incompatible) or they still wouldn't even if they could, then we can consider them different species. We can't really know whether that was the case with Neandertals, so we can't say conclusively whether they were Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. But the criteria for subspecies is a lot less strict, and equates to a "breed" in dogs. Each member of the subject population must share some trait with every other member of that population, and that trait must be unique to that group, not shared with any member of the alternative group. And of course the alternate group should have their own unique distinction shared amongst all of them that isn't present in any member of the subject group.
The earliest neandertals were already distinguishable from Archaic Homo sapiens. But later groups diverged much more significantly so that we may have the makings of a speciation, but we definitely already have a separate subspecies.
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The more recent Neanderthals consistently had a stockier build, stronger deeper jaw, broader nasal cavity, and a pronounced brow ridge with no forehead to speak of. This was in common with Homo erectus, "father" to both Sapiens and Neanderthals. Both of the daughter species had larger brains than erectus, but Neanderthal brains were actually larger than ours! Although their frontal lobe may not have been as well-developed, and this may account in part for the lack of artistic expression found in Neanderthal homesites. But yes, at the very least, Neanderthals were a distinct subspecies, if not an entirely different species by the time they went extinct.
Those Christians are liberal in their determination of Christianity and most likely except evolution ----- oddly enough. At the very least, they take issue with Biblical inerrancy.
Again, there are conservative christians who are racists, etc. Painting whole groups with the same brush gets you no-where.
Well, we are definitely apes. That's objectively verifiable. The SUB-jective part is trying to decide whether we're different kinds of apes or not. Why should any of that cause us to doubt whether we're related to other apes?
Wrong. Everyone is an ape. Care to challenge me on that?
I remember that I showed an illustration to you to prove how closely related carnivores are, and to show that there was more variety within the canine species than there is between the canid species.
Yes, I remember learning about that in my anthropology class. The only explanation I can give you for that is that those were Imperial Englishmen from the 1800s. A couple centuries earlier, when they were all creationists, they said that native Americans were sub-human animals too. The British empire was at one time the most arrogant and disrespectful ethnocentric conglomeration of elitists there ever was. Fortunately they're past that stage now, and America stepped in to fill they left open.
Seriously! I'm sick of hearing negative slander about other religions, other races, other countries, other life-styles.Aron-Ra said:
Kinda sad that that passage wasn't found until about 200 years ago.
But with one lineage being destroyed by God just to make room for his chosen lineage. Naw there's no racism there. Just look at how God's holy prophet brought his message of love to the Medianites. Yeah, real idyllic society there.
And doing a very poor job of it, since your guess are so far off the mark.
