The Lord Jesus spoke about blind leaders.That is disgusting.
The only thing that the church or any other should be concerned about is preaching the gospel.
Nothing else matters and even if there were only one "old" person attending, that would be more pleasing to God than seeking how to "attract" people.
That is a complete misunderstanding of what was happening when the Israelites took 40 years to go into the promised land.Such an idea is not unheard of........There were a group of people traveling the wilderness for many years.....awaiting the death of the older people, so that the young could move forward into the promise......
That is a complete misunderstanding of what was happening when the Israelites took 40 years to go into the promised land.
Jesus rebuked 1st century churches! Read Revelation and his Letters to the Seven churches. Two were good, most had problems and were in need of repentance, a couple were either dead or dying and corrupt.Struggling Cottage Grove Church Asks Older Members To Go Away
Churches die for reasons. This one is Methodist, but it's a pattern I've observed independent of denomination.
My position: an aging church membership is a symptom of a failure to fulfill the Great Commission, and a declining membership is another symptom. But failing to fulfill the Great Commission is itself a symptom of a deeper spiritual illness. This church lost its way a long time ago. And this latest cynical move is yet another manifestation of the sickness.
Jesus welcomed the humble from all walks of life and of all ages. But the Church he founded - the Church described in the New Testament- does it even exist anymore?
If the church were led by the Holy Spirit, things never even would have gotten to this point.
Yes, but worshiping the calf wasn't about the GOLD in any way. They could have built a calf of anything and worshiped it. It could have been a diamond or ruby calf (since they were sent on their way with gold and jewels).Wasn't a golden calf a rather important part of that story?
Does anyone else notice that the church involved seems to be more concerned with gold than other issues and that there is a strong case that they are worshiping their own golden idol?
You are given to understand what you are ready to understand. Unwise to assume that, just because someone sees something different in the word than you are able to see, that they are wrong. The law and the prophets spoke about Jesus.....Yet, because his interpretation was different from what the religious people have commonly heard....He was dismissed.That is a complete misunderstanding of what was happening when the Israelites took 40 years to go into the promised land.
Again you see only what you are allowed to see. NO ONE could see a sea parted and follow a cloud of fire and then stop trusting the God that created those occurrences. And the Gold was important in the making of the calf. If you are willing to see more than History.....more than what the mind understands when it glances at the words.....more will be revealed.It was about no longer trusting God despite all they had just watched Him do, when Moses didn't come right back down off the mountain.
The North Texas district of the Assemblies of God Denomination has over 600 churches, and last year over 200 of them reported NO salvations in 2019. THAT'S a problem.
Jesus welcomed the humble from all walks of life and of all ages. But the Church he founded - the Church described in the New Testament- does it even exist anymore?
If the church were led by the Holy Spirit, things never even would have gotten to this point.
OP link is broken, here's another link to the story: What’s Really Going On Inside the Minnesota Church Accused of Trying to Expel Its Elderly Members
Yes, exactly.You are given to understand what you are ready to understand. Unwise to assume that, just because someone sees something different in the word than you are able to see, that they are wrong. The law and the prophets spoke about Jesus.....Yet, because his interpretation was different from what the religious people have commonly heard....He was dismissed.
There are things that are hidden from the wise, yet revealed to those you deem ignorant and unlearned. Yet such is the Father's desire.
"...Cottage Grove church’s leadership team voted last year to temporarily close the Cottage Grove campus starting in June 2020. They hired a 32-year-old “planting pastor,” Jeremy Peters, who will be charged with redesigning the church’s programs and Sunday worship style, and updating the building with the goal of attracting new—and yes, younger—members."OP link is broken, here's another link to the story: What’s Really Going On Inside the Minnesota Church Accused of Trying to Expel Its Elderly Members
"...Cottage Grove church’s leadership team voted last year to temporarily close the Cottage Grove campus starting in June 2020. They hired a 32-year-old “planting pastor,” Jeremy Peters, who will be charged with redesigning the church’s programs and Sunday worship style, and updating the building with the goal of attracting new—and yes, younger—members."
How about praying and fasting and seeking God's wisdom on this, instead of man's wisdom?
God doesn't care how many there are. He cares how committed they are.
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