Facts To Prove The Theory Of Evolution

[Chesterton]

Why did Jesus' own people reject the Messiah Jesus that they had been waiting for for hundreds (thousands?) of years ?

Because the Jews are a representation of all humanity, but I think that's a topic for another thread.

 

[Gene2memE]

Then why does academia claim that there is no evidence for the Exodus and the Jews living in the Sinai?

Likely because there isn't good historical or archeological evidence for the Exodus. At least nothing that really lines up with any plausible interpretations of the biblical account.

It's not impossible that such a thing occurred. But, when presented with a claim the idea is to withhold belief until such a time as evidence sufficient to overcome skepticism is warranted. At the moment, there's nothing in terms of physical evidence which would support the claim as presented. And that's after almost 150 years of looking.

At best, the Exodus account can be viewed as mythologised and exaggerated history. Given that this was a very common genre in the ancient Near East (look at Mesopotamian 'histories' for instance), it provides the most parsimonius explanation.

What if they found synagogues, hospitals, copies of the Ten Commandments, and torahs all over the Sinai Peninsula? Would they conclude that Jews lived in the desert?

Yes, because all those things are physical discoveries that would support the proposition 'Jews lived in the [Sinai] desert'.

Those things may or may not support a literal reading of the Exodus account. It would depend very much on things like dating, location and compounding factors.

If they found copies of the Torah and 10 Commandments with printing dates that read '2021', that's not supporting evidence for the Exodus. Conversely, if artifacts with identifiably Jewish origins were found at some of the putative stations of the Exodus in the 1450 to 1200 BCE period, that might be supporting evidence. It depends on a heap of other factors though.

 

[sjastro]

Not in any sense of the reality is science self correcting at all. Money is the major motive (greed), and the mountain of lies produced exceed the federal budget.

As a money hungry greedy scientist engaging in a mountain of lies it's strange I didn't see it impact on my pay packet.

 

[dlamberth]

Science is by its very nature self correcting so what is your point?
You have offered nothing to demonstrate why evolution is a fairy tale except it clashes with your faith which is at odds with the majority of your fellow Christians who accept evolution.

One of the thing's I've noticed is that it's mostly scientist who are attacked. There's a little sometimes, but basically we see very few arguments that try to show evolution as false. I see it as attacking the messenger but not the message.

 

[sjastro]

One of the thing's I've noticed is that it's mostly scientist who are attacked. There's a little sometimes, but basically we see very few arguments that try to show evolution as false. I see it as attacking the messenger but not the message.

This is how anti-intellectualism works, when you don't have a sound reason of showing why the science is wrong smear the scientist's reputations instead.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Not all stand accused, nor will all be excused. All will be tried, everyone will be receiving what they worked for, with God the Creator and Jesus as the Perfect Executioners and Judges of Righteousness and All.

You were calling scientists liars and greedy. This claim about Jesus is irrelevant to what you said about us.

 

[BeyondET]

Iterative improvement.

For instance, if you were inclined to investigate the evolution of mantis shrimp eyesight, there are quite literally dozens of published papers on the subject:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1475-1313.2010.00762.x

Evolution of anatomical and physiological specialization in the compound eyes of stomatopod crustaceans

SUMMARYStomatopod crustaceans have complex and diverse visual systems. Among their many unique features are a specialized ommatidial region (the midband) that enables the eye to have multiple overlapping visual fields, as well as sets of spectral filters that are intercalated at two levels...

journals.biologists.com

Evolutionary variation in the expression of phenotypically plastic color vision in Caribbean mantis shrimps, genus Neogonodactylus - Marine Biology

Many animals have color vision systems that are well suited to their local environments. Changes in color vision can occur over long periods (evolutionary time), or over relatively short periods such as during development. A select few animals, including stomatopod crustaceans, are able to...

link.springer.com

The Evolution of Complexity in the Visual Systems of Stomatopods: Insights from Transcriptomics

Abstract. Stomatopod crustaceans have complex visual systems containing up to 16 different spectral classes of photoreceptors, more than described for any

academic.oup.com

Yes indeed there is a lot to learn from the mantis. The little shrimp is a powerhouse, punches faster than a 22 bullet shot from a gun though underwater. Which on contact creates a flash of light and heat in a cavitation bubble that can reach temperatures similar to that of the sun.

Scientists are studying the biotechnology to recreate optics similar to improve on humans own optical technology.

Just because we don't have a full understanding of any one particular subject within evolution, or a complete evolutionary history of any particular body part, doesn't mean that the Theory of Evolution has been falsified.

Of coarse

If I don't understand how a particular building was constructed, that's not evidence that architecture isn't real.

Same with biotechnology like architecture which is never done without starting with a blueprint.

Can you name a body structure that biologists don't have at least a partial and plausible explanation for under the Theory of Evolution?

What are those forces of nature that gives it ability to create advanced optic?. How can a thoughtless process create such wonders. What force in the ocean caused the mantis shrimp to self develop advanced biotechnology vision. Nothing else in the ocean has such advanced vision. Nothing period anywhere. Maybe an octopus that can see through its skin. Yet another example of blind natural selection choosing to go extreme with life's possibilities without instruction or degree to even select anything.

 

[Gene2memE]

What are those forces of nature that gives it ability to create advanced optic?. How can a thoughtless process create such wonders.

Mutation and selection.

What force in the ocean caused the mantis shrimp to self develop advanced biotechnology vision.

It didn't "self develop". Stomatopod vision systems are quite diverse and are the product of millions of years of gradual improvement.

Nothing else in the ocean has such advanced vision.

And...? Just because stomatopods have excellent vision, that's evidence of what exactly?

Yet another example of blind natural selection choosing to go extreme with life's possibilities without instruction or degree to even select anything.

Yes. Glad you get it.

 

[Larniavc]

Well but if it's just an unproven theory then why do people like me get insulted when we don't accept it? Why do scientists in academia sometimes get ostracized just for critically analyzing it?

I guess you don’t accept germ theory or buoyancy theory?

And let’s be honest: you haven’t critically analysed it because you clearly have not even the most basic undergrad understand of the topic as shown by your ill conceived comments in this thread. So how can you claim ‘scientist’ have also done so?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

"chess with a pigeon"? I'm a boomer twice as old as you and even I'm more hip than to insult people with such stale insults. Anyway, for the second time in this thread, pro-tip: insults are not arguments.

It's got nothing to do at all with being 'hip'. Describing conversing with you as playing chess with a pigeon is accurate. You've been shown multiple times the evidence for evolution and you just go "Nope" and act like you've won some big game.

 

[Larniavc]

A lot of times evolution can not explain how such things come about blindly other than intelligent design.

Which times?

 

[BeyondET]

Mutation and selection.

Mutation and Thought, interesting to select is to choose which is intelligents. Like slime mold that can recreate a highway system built by humans in the exact same way. I watched a video on intelligence at the cellular level was fascinating indeed.

It didn't "self develop". Stomatopod vision systems are quite diverse and are the product of millions of years of gradual improvement.

Yes it didn't self anything, it followed a blueprint from nothing to something.

And...? Just because stomatopods have excellent vision, that's evidence of what exactly?

Biotechnology

 

[Larniavc]

Hmmm.... Hint: There exists nothing observable to support the beginning, middle or end of evolution theory.
But to know this requires , well, innocence .

What about nylon eating bacteria?

 

[Larniavc]

why do people like me get insulted

Being told why you are wrong is not an insult.

 

[BeyondET]

Which times?

When gold reached earth so it could help keep the spark that's in you and assist with joints. We are always eating it.

 

[Larniavc]

When gold reached earth so it could help keep the spark that's in you and assist with joints. We are always eating it.

What does that have to do with evolution?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Then why does academia claim that there is no evidence for the Exodus and the Jews living in the Sinai?

Not all of "academia" claims this, AV. Some do and some don't, depending on whether they're Minimalists, Centrists or Maximalist in how they handle the interpretation of the evidential past regarding the Hebrew/Israelite history.

What if they found synagogues, hospitals, copies of the Ten Commandments, and torahs all over the Sinai Peninsula?

Would they conclude that Jews lived in the desert?

They would................unless they open the Ark.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Well but if it's just an unproven theory then why do people like me get insulted when we don't accept it? Why do scientists in academia sometimes get ostracized just for critically analyzing it?

In science, the term "proven" doesn't carry with it the same meaning as it does in Mathematics. In science, the denotation of proven is in line with "demonstrated" or "evidenced" rather than implying an absolute, irrefutable conclusion. Any modern scientific theory doesn't structurally fall in line with deductive argumentation, rather it explains the collective utilization and amassing of various inductive arguments. Keep that in mind.

 

[Shemjaza]

What you have both said is fundamentally untrue, and cannot be substantiated.

Actually they have.

Are you aware of paternity tests? The exact same principle can be used for comparative genetic comparisons between extant species and this can indicate a pattern of relatedness.

Fossil and structural analysis demonstrates the same tree pattern of relatedness that is consistent with evolution and inconsistent with a common designer.

I said nothing about "life" in my post.

Ah, then you didn't understand the book.

Darwin describes new species forming via inherited variation and it's trivial to infer that separated groups with some form of inherited variation would have different sets of traits in the population over generations.

Now Darwin didn't know the method or mechanism of the inheritance or the variation, but his research demonstrated that it existed.

Later scientists would be able to demonstrate genetics for inheritance and mutation as a driver of variation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Likely because there isn't good historical or archeological evidence for the Exodus. At least nothing that really lines up with any plausible interpretations of the biblical account.

Rhetorical question:

What goes through your mind then, when you hear people refer to the Jews as "ignorant, goat herding, desert nomads"?

If there is no evidence of the Exodus, as you say, then how did they get into the desert in the first place?