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I have a friend with Russian parents that was born and raised in Germany. For whatever reason, she was a stateless person. She did not have citizenship in either Germany or Russia. She doesn't consider herself German as a consequence, though she does acknowledge that German culture has had a huge effect on her upbringing.Aren't you Europeans the ones who think we Americans are strange for identifying with the birthplaces of our forefathers? Here in the U.S., I say that I'm Irish, but in Europe I was challenged by my friends even when I said "Irish-American."
There would seem to be some dissonance here, but perhaps you aren't one of the Europeans who would say that. Out of curiosity, how many generations would you consider when deporting people? Just the 1.5 and 2nd gen immigrants? Or more than that?
I am indeed serious. You are a Christian, right? Do you agree that we have a calling that is very demanding on us - to put the needs of others ahead of our own, sometimes including our own safety? This is a complicated issue; while I believe that polls do indeed that a disturbingly large fraction of Muslim agree to statements that we rightly find troubling, it is not clear how committed they are to such ideas. In short, I think our need to be compassionate to refugees from way may be the greater responsibility here. As you may know, here in Canada we have brought in 25,000 Syrian refugees. Obviously, there is a risk. But, I suggest, our moral responsibility to demonstrate compassion is probably the most important consideration. Please do not misunderstand me: I believe that, to the extent practicable, immigrants should be rigorously screened and those who meet a certain threshold of risk should not be admitted.Huh? You advocate importing people who values are completely antithetical to the values of your society and culture?
You can't be serious
Thank you USA...for this terror wave you created over europe...
Aren't you Europeans the ones who think we Americans are strange for identifying with the birthplaces of our forefathers? Here in the U.S., I say that I'm Irish, but in Europe I was challenged by my friends even when I said "Irish-American."
There would seem to be some dissonance here, but perhaps you aren't one of the Europeans who would say that. Out of curiosity, how many generations would you consider when deporting people? Just the 1.5 and 2nd gen immigrants? Or more than that?
Good question, of course. I believe I gave at least part of an answer in my immediately preceding post. To expand: I think it is at least plausible that only a very small minority of Muslims are committed deeply to some of what I agree are very bad ideas that are disturbingly widely-held among Muslims. Accordingly, I think they may indeed "adapt" once here.Why not? If you accept the premise that these people come from cultures that are largely incompatible with Western cultures, and if you look at the fact that not only do these communities by and large not assimilate with the cultures of their new countries (as well as the fact that the social programs of those countries are buckling under the weight of all these new people), why would you not restrict immigration?
Yikes. Consider the parable of the Good Samaritan. He took a risk in helping the beaten man - he put his own self-interests behind those of the injured Jewish man. And, more to the point in this context, Jews and Samaritans hated each other. I suggest Jesus' point is clear: we need to risk to show love, even to our enemies. If thousands are fleeing a war, we need to help them, and if that involves some degree of risk I would like to think I am willing to accept that.To deny that Jesus Christ is the Son of God is of the Spirit of the Anti-Christ. It is an abomination to allow those who carry the spirit of anti Christ to live among us. God gave them their land and it is in the Middle East.
Yikes. Consider the parable of the Good Samaritan. He took a risk in helping the beaten man - he put his own self-interests behind those of the injured Jewish man. And, more to the point in this context, Jews and Samaritans hated each other. I suggest Jesus' point is clear: we need to risk to show love, even to our enemies. If thousands are fleeing a war, we need to help them, and if that involves some degree of risk I would like to think I am willing to accept that.
I am indeed serious. You are a Christian, right? Do you agree that we have a calling that is very demanding on us - to put the needs of others ahead of our own, sometimes including our own safety? This is a complicated issue; while I believe that polls do indeed that a disturbingly large fraction of Muslim agree to statements that we rightly find troubling, it is not clear how committed they are to such ideas. In short, I think our need to be compassionate to refugees from way may be the greater responsibility here. As you may know, here in Canada we have brought in 25,000 Syrian refugees. Obviously, there is a risk. But, I suggest, our moral responsibility to demonstrate compassion is probably the most important consideration. Please do not misunderstand me: I believe that, to the extent practicable, immigrants should be rigorously screened and those who meet a certain threshold of risk should not be admitted.
Fair enough - we each have the choice of balancing our own needs (and those of our family) against those of the broader world.You have lost nothing yet. The risk you are taking is the risk of me to lose my family. And i´m not willing to take this risk.
Are Muslims a separate species?
Well, we disagree on a matter of theology here. I believe we are called to emulate the self-sacrificial nature of Jesus. Again, though, it is not at all clear to me that this danger is that high. Yes, it is a tragedy when people die at the hands of terrorists. But there are many things that are much more dangerous - cigarettes and cheeseburgers to name just two.We don't ask ourselves what Jesus would do when it comes to dangerous people migrating to our country. He's God, we aren't.
Fair enough - we each have the choice of balancing our own needs (and those of our family) against those of the broader world.
I'm not understanding how this is supposed to be a critique.
You're not addressing the issue.
We are not angels. Our leader isn't God.
Sometimes, the United States is wrong. Sometimes, something is our fault.
He didn't say that everything is always our fault.
He was speaking specifically about this issue of the spread of radical Islamic terrorism.
Each such attack adds more fuel and considering the amount of votes right wing parties get recently we sure will have a clean Europe soon.
Well, we disagree on a matter of theology here. I believe we are called to emulate the self-sacrificial nature of Jesus. Again, though, it is not at all clear to me that this danger is that high. Yes, it is a tragedy when people die at the hands of terrorists. But there are many things that are much more dangerous - cigarettes and cheeseburgers to name just two.
Difference being what has Belgium or the EU done to the Muslim world to justify this? Besides take in millions of Muslim migrants to their own detriment.
Not as clean as we're going to be back here in the good old USA.
Ok, I think that pretty much says it all about where you are coming from.....And that's on our president, may he burn in hell.
Ok, I think that pretty much says it all about where you are coming from.....
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