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The locust creatures of the 5th trumpet judgments are unleashed from the bottomless pit and torment men for 5 months. The first of three woe judgments.3) And you don't explain the what the locusts are and how they relate to the abomination.
Shortened from all flesh on earth dying.4) And you don't explain how the 'days of the great tribulation are shortened'. Your explanation doesn't explain what 1335 days is shortened from. From what? It is shortened from what? Saying from killing everyone is not an answer.
The seals begin the first day of the 7 years. I also show the horses and riders on my main chart below this one.5) And you don't put things in order: you have the 2 witnesses during the Seals? The 2 witnesses are 1260 days before the 7th Trumpet and the 1st woe comes before that.
שִׁקּ֣וּצֵיהֶ֔ם
or
שִׁקּוּצִים֙
is plural abominations.
שִׁקּוּץ
is a singular abomination.
Dan 9:27 is שִׁקּוּצִים֙, which is plural.
No, the 1260 happens in the middle of the week reread Dan. 12:7, from the time the holy peoples are conquered or scattered, there shall be a time times and 1/2 or 1260 days until all these wonders end [at the second coming of Jesus]. So, the 1260 is in the middle of the 70th week. The 7th Trump blows 75 days before Jesus shows up. The mid point is Rev. 8 the Asteroid strike in four phases (Trumps 1-4).Also,
imo, you are confusing the 1260 days - they are the 1st half of the 7 year covenant. The mid-point of the covenant is the 7th Trumpet, having started with the mighty angel of Rev 10 swearing an oath. That oath is the 7 year covenant. (the ruler of Tyre who calls himself God (Ezek 28:2) is likened to an angel in Ezek 28:14.)
Yes, he rules for 1260 days, that's the whole point.this 1260 days here:
Dan 7:25 He will speak out against the Most High and oppress the saints of the Most High, intending to change the appointed times and laws; and the saints will be given into his hand for a time, and times, and half a time.
What I just pointed out above.and this 1260 days here:
Dan 12:7 And the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by Him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”
No, its the Daniel 7's fifth (5th) beast you can not see it, like most others, the Man of Sin, the A.C. the Assyrian, the Little Horn etc. etc. We see he is killed in Rev. 19:20 also, he is thrown alive into hell, which means he never rests until the 2nd resurrection, which is 1000 years later, but is judged straight away.Dan 7:11 Then I kept watching because of the arrogant words the horn was speaking. As I continued to watch, the beast was slain, and its body was destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was removed, but they were granted an extension of life for a season and a time.
What beast is it that is killed? It is the Dan 7 4th beast. The Dan 7 4th beast is killed after 1260 days - the 1st half of the 7 years which ends at the 7th Trumpet.
Who are the 'rest of the beasts'? It's the 'lion, bear, leopard'! Who is mentioned in Rev 13's beast from the sea? The leopard, bear, lion. The extension of a 'season and a time' applies to the Rev 13 beast from the sea. The 42 months of the Beast from the sea is shortened to 70 weeks (a season and a time)
That is one manner by which the great tribulation is shortened.
Dan 7:25 and Dan 12:7 'time, times, half a time' does not refer to Rev 13:5's beast from the sea 42 months (which begins at the mid-point of the 7 years). It refers to the 1st half of the 7 years.
I have been doing this 40 years brother. I told it can mean either, and in the New Testament Greek, who as QUOTING Himself basically because Jesus was the pre incarnate Man in Linen in Dan. 12, so Gabriel was following his orders. So, in Matt. 24:15 its very clear he calls it an Abomination, but who cares ? Its a meaningless bad argument anyway. He could be counting it has an Abomination for each day, even for the evening and morning sacrifice. Anyone into prophecy who doesn't understand these are small picture things, not big picture issues, doesn't quite understand how prophecy works.
The AoD is the Image (Rev. 13 GO READ IT the 2nd Beast or False Prophet makes an Image of the first beast) standing in the holy place.
No, the 1260 happens in the middle of the week reread Dan. 12:7, from the time the holy peoples are conquered or scattered, there shall be a time times and 1/2 or 1260 days until all these wonders end [at the second coming of Jesus]. So, the 1260 is in the middle of the 70th week. The 7th Trump blows 75 days before Jesus shows up. The mid point is Rev. 8 the Asteroid strike in four phases (Trumps 1-4).
Rev. 10 is merely God telling us what the 7 trumps (7 Thunders) will bring. This is why the little book is both bitter and sweet. Judgment coming is sweet, it gets us closer to an eternal life with Jesus, but to John, having billions of human beings judged & killed is bitter in his stomach.
Yes, he rules for 1260 days, that's the whole point.
What I just pointed out above.
No, its the Daniel 7s fifth (5th) beast you can not see it, like most others, the Man of Sin, the A.C. the Assyrian, the Little Horn etc. etc. We see he is killed in Rev. 19:20 also, he is throw alive into hell, which means he never rests until the 2nd resurrection, which is 1000 years later, but is judged straight away.
He dies when Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial in Rev. 16:19.
The rest of the beast live on, well all did even after they were Beast kingdoms, Alexander the Great died in Babylon, he ruled from there, both Persia and Greece re still around today a is Rome/Italy.
The reason those three are mentioned in Rev. 13 is to show us all 5 beasts. Those three, then Rome who received the mortal wound, this figurative 7 headed beast went away for nigh 2000 years, there was no Israel to beast over !! But when the A.C. conquers Jerusalem/Israel the wound will be healed, and the 7 headed beast will once again be in operation. Nothing is shortened, that is just you not taking into account Jesus's pre planed 2nd coming actually kills the beast (shortens his life) which shortens the beasts natural born life. But he dies on day 2520 of the 70th week (last day) and on the 1260th day of the beasts rule.
Dan 8, 9 and 16 covers 1260 days of God's Wrath. Rev. 12 and 13 cover the exact same 1260 days. Rev. 17 and 18 covers the exact same days.
I have read it.The AoD is the Image (Rev. 13 GO READ IT the 2nd Beast or False Prophet makes an Image of the first beast) standing in the holy place.
So, the 1260 is in the middle of the 70th week. The 7th Trump blows 75 days before Jesus shows up. The mid point is Rev. 8 the Asteroid strike in four phases (Trumps 1-4).
That isn't what it says:Rev. 10 is merely God telling us what the 7 trumps (7 Thunders) will bring.
The rest of the beast live on, well all did even after they were Beast kingdoms, Alexander the Great died in Babylon, he ruled from there, both Persia and Greece re still around today a is Rome/Italy.
This cannot be true.Nothing is shortened, that is just you not taking into account Jesus's pre planed 2nd coming actually kills the beast (shortens his life) which shortens the beasts natural born life. But he dies on day 2520 of the 70th week (last day) and on the 1260th day of the beasts rule.
The 2 witnesses 1260 days are within the 2nd woe, not during the Seals...The locust creatures of the 5th trumpet judgments are unleashed from the bottomless pit and torment men for 5 months. The first of three woe judgments.
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John was being show what the three trumpet woes would be.The 2 witnesses 1260 days are within the 2nd woe, not during the Seals...
Isn't it obvious that putting the 7th Trumpet before the 6th Trumpet is not correct?
Literally nothing in this chart sticks to what Revelation is describing.
In Revelation 11, John begins prophesying again after eating the little book handed to him by the angel in Revelation 10:7-11.The 2 witnesses 1260 days are within the 2nd woe, not during the Seals...
The 2nd woe arrives at the start of the 6th Trumpet - Rev 9:13.In Revelation 11, John begins prophesying again after eating the little book handed to him by the angel in Revelation 10:7-11.
Revelation 11 is not a extension of the events of Revelation 9. The 1260 days of the two witnesses are the first half of the 7 years.
When is Satan is cast down to earth in the days when the 7th angel sounds, he will be given the key to the bottomless pit, to release the locust creatures.The 2nd woe arrives at the start of the 6th Trumpet - Rev 9:13.
The 1st woe arrives at the start of the Trumpets/ start of the 5th Trumpet.
We know that the 2nd woe ends at the 7th Trumpet. Rev 11:14
You would have me believe that the 2nd woe starts before the 1st woe? Please just stop.
There is literally no indication that there is any break whatsoever proving that there is a jump in sequence. None. That is your own incorrect reading of things.
Why can't you just put things in the order that it is given? Just stop telling me 7 comes before 6 before 3 before the 2nd Seal before the 6th Trumpet before the 4th Bowl of wrath before the 1st Seal, etc.
Why won't you just accept what Revelation is saying instead of putting your own interpretation into it that clearly isn't there?
Why can't you just put things in the order that it is given? Just stop telling me 7 comes before 6 before 3 before the 2nd Seal before the 6th Trumpet before the 4th Bowl of wrath before the 1st Seal, etc.
There is only one Abomination, once you have defiled the temple, it can not be defiled again unless it is first cleansed. The AoD in Dan. 11 was a shadow of the coming A.C./Beast's end time AoD. Bt of course you are saying there is two end time Abominations, and that's just not factual my friend, I see why you are confused, you do not understand that Rev. 12:1-5 is a CODE ONLY, that we are given by God so we can solve who the Women is, and so John (who gets this from God) will not have to say Israel, why? Because Rome had just conquered Israel, John sending letters saying Israel was going to rule the world in the end would have been seen as treason, and those church members probably would have been killed. That is also why Babylon (the Whole World) is used, John saying Babylon was going to be Judged and Destroyed got laughs from the Romans when they saw those writings in the Churches hands, Babylon was a Dead City by 90ish AD. But if John had said "The World" was going to be judged and defeated, the Romans would have seen that as treason also, they were "THE WORLD" in their ow eyes. So, what is the CODE? See Below:I have read it.
And you didn't respond to my point that there are 2 abominations:
the Rev 13 one you are referring to (the living image) is AFTER the 'sign of the son of man in heaven' which is clearly pointing to Rev 12:1.
There is a second abomination - that one occurs BEFORE the 'sign of the son of man in heaven'. Go read Matt 24:29-31.
No, you have it all conflated brother.The 2nd Trumpet's 'burning mountain' is referring to the fall of Babylon. There very well may be an 'asteroid' event, but that is not it's primary meaning.
Jer 24Before your very eyes I will repay Babylon and all the dwellers of Chaldea for all the evil they have done in Zion,” declares the LORD.25“Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, you who devastate the whole earth, declares the LORD. I will stretch out My hand against you; I will roll you over the cliffs and turn you into a burnt mountain.
Yes, the 1260th day is the middle of the 7 years, but that is at the 7th Trumpet.
Yes, because the 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. The Two-witnesses pray down every plague, after the 2nd Woe they pray down the 3rd Woe which is brought forth when an Angel blows the 7th Trump. But the Two-witnesses die right after the pray, still at the 2nd woe, before the 7th Trump blows.That isn't what it says:
Rev 10:7 but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.
It says that the mystery of God is done at the 7th Trumpet. That's the time of the 2nd abomination.
So they only live on for a season and a time. What happens at the end of this time frame? Kind of strange that that amount of time is 70 weeks.
The middle of the 7 years is the 1260, but the A.C. is not the Beast until that point in time, the 1290 happens 30 days before the 1260, in the midst of the week, not in the exact middle. We know the 1260 is the middle, not the 1290 nor 1335.This cannot be true.
Is this explaining the meaning of 1335 days? Just moving 'the middle of the 7' to mean, 'not really the middle' like Doug does?
No, the Beast starts on day 1260, the Two-witnesses their ministry start on the 1335 (1185), that is why the DIE FIRST at the 2nd Woe, before the Beast dies at the 7th vial (2nd coming). Israel has to repent BEFORE the coming Day of the Lord falls, how else would they know to flee Judea? They do not read Matt. 24:15, the Two-witnesses get 1/3 of Israel to repent (Zech. 13:8-9 says so) THEN in Zech. 14:1 we see the DOTL arrives !!With this interpretation, how do you explain the beast being around 75 days after his expiration date? If the beast starts on day 1185, there is no way he could be around at the end of 2520 days - he would have been gone 75 days prior.
You probably ought to read my OP, seems you are confusing things Douggg is saying with my post. Douggg never gets the timeline correct.
The beast's "rule" begins on day 1260 as shown on my timeline chart. Once the AoD is setup on the temple mount, the two witnesses battle the beast while the Jews in Judea are fleeing to the mountains for safety. The beast overcomes the two witnesses and kills them on day 1260. On day 1263.5 the two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven.No, the Beast starts on day 1260,
It is 70 x 7 weeks (heptads). 70 x 7 weeks of years.After 70 years God will punish Babylon and all the nations of the world. Jeremiah 25.
Daniel was reading Jeremiah 25, Daniel 9:1-2, and understood that he was inside of a 70 year captivity.
Gabriel tells Daniel that seventy captivities will happen. Daniel 9:24 'Seventy captivities are determined upon they people....'
Seventy seventy year captivities. 4,900 total years worth of captivity.
In about the middle of the which the Messiah suffers the death penalty, but not for Himself.
'And after 32 captivities shall Messiah suffer the death penalty, but not for Himself' Daniel 9:26.
And therefore the anti-Christ really has 70 years, not just 7.
'And he shall confirm a covenant with many for one captivity,
and in the midst of the captivity he shal.l cause the sacrifice and ablation to cease....'
No, I never said that the 2nd woe precedes the 1st woe.
This is the only part you get correct. Daniel was reading from Jeremiah, and he knew the 70 yeas of exile was near, so he goes into prayer, he tells God of all Israel's sins, throws the nation at the mercy seat of God then reminds God of His promise of only 70 years in exile in Babylon. His prayer ends like this, then Gabriel comes forth to tell Daniel what is going to happen. God has a law in place for Israel that times their punishment TIMES SEVEN (Leviticus 26:18 see below). So, its self explanatory.After 70 years God will punish Babylon and all the nations of the world. Jeremiah 25.
Daniel was reading Jeremiah 25, Daniel 9:1-2, and understood that he was inside of a 70 year captivity.
It is 70 x 7 weeks (heptads). 70 x 7 weeks of years.
The 7 years of Daniel 9:27 is the same seven years following the Gog/Magog event in Ezekiel 39.
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