Explain the Mystery Religion

[CTD]

natural selection can act only through and for the good of each being

Chapter 4, sacred evotext on the Preservation of Favoured Races

Now surely if I go to comment, which anyone who reads and writes English might fairly do, it will be exclaimed that I "do not understand evolution."

So before I commence, it seems reasonable to allow the blindly faithful to explain their religion for the rest of us.

How does the selection goddess of death work for the good of each being?

How does she work by the good of each being?

How is it that she can do nothing else?

Were we dealing with a civilized, humble, or tolerant religion it'd be rude to laugh. That's not the case.

 

[Blayz]

Stop competing with Lillen. He wins.

 

[cupid dave]

Chapter 4, sacred evotext on the Preservation of Favoured Races

Now surely if I go to comment, which anyone who reads and writes English might fairly do, it will be exclaimed that I "do not understand evolution."

So before I commence, it seems reasonable to allow the blindly faithful to explain their religion for the rest of us.

How does the selection goddess of death work for the good of each being?

How does she work by the good of each being?

How is it that she can do nothing else?

Were we dealing with a civilized, humble, or tolerant religion it'd be rude to laugh. That's not the case.

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Evolution works for the benefit of the species, not theindividual being.





Proverbs 6:6 NIV

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise!

 

[Mike Elphick]

Chapter 4, sacred evotext on the Preservation of Favoured Races

Now surely if I go to comment, which anyone who reads and writes English might fairly do, it will be exclaimed that I "do not understand evolution."

So before I commence, it seems reasonable to allow the blindly faithful to explain their religion for the rest of us.

How does the selection goddess of death work for the good of each being?

How does she work by the good of each being?

How is it that she can do nothing else?

Were we dealing with a civilized, humble, or tolerant religion it'd be rude to laugh. That's not the case.

To the charge that evolution is a religion, I’d say it was a case of psychological projection*. I invite those people to read this little essay:-

There are some specific qualifications that are usually required for a religion, and evolution fails all of them. It has no prophets. It has no scriptures. It has no temples and no priesthood. It sets no rules for behavior; evolution does not promise me a reward if I adhere to it, nor does it threaten me with punishment if I deny it. It provides nothing to worship; no one prays to evolution. It is silent on the topics of life after death or the existence of the soul. It says nothing about the existence of a god or lack thereof - it can be seamlessly incorporated into any belief system, from the most ardent atheism to all but the most literal fundamentalist theism, with any deity or other supernatural entity of choice given credit for using evolution as the mechanism by which life was caused to diversify. And most importantly, evolution is a science and does not require religious faith of any sort.

*Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. I can’t think of any other reason for creationists thinking that evolution is a religion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Chapter 4, sacred evotext on the Preservation of Favoured Races

Now surely if I go to comment, which anyone who reads and writes English might fairly do, it will be exclaimed that I "do not understand evolution."

-- You expect otherwise?

So before I commence, it seems reasonable to allow the blindly faithful to explain their religion for the rest of us.

Δalleles/time = Rocky was our father.

How does the selection goddess of death work for the good of each being?

By filtering out everyone but the Speed Racers and the Chuck Norrises.

How does she work by the good of each being?

She is the universe's ultimate human rescources manager, placing people right where they belong; i.e. the Laguna Seca Raceway, Rocky's Gym, or underground.

How is it that she can do nothing else?

No fight or flight = no evolve. What more do you want from her?

Were we dealing with a civilized, humble, or tolerant religion it'd be rude to laugh. That's not the case.

-- Ahhh Ha! Ha! Ha!

 

[AV1611VET]

*Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. I can’t think of any other reason for creationists thinking that evolution is a religion.

 

[cupid dave]

I can’t think of any other reason for creationists thinking that evolution is a religion.

They are intuitively responding to the unique and singular belief system people have in regard to their reliance upon their Logical/mathematical Intelligence (ie, Science).


They do not actually perceive the true insight for what they insinuate with such comments.
But they are right, in the sense we all tend to believe in one of seven, maybe eight, intellectual ways of describing the real world.

These are the multiple intelligences avilable to us, and, sadly, we all tend to use one predominantly.
We have "faith" in that way of analyzing the world as we see it.
We believe we are right.
We "know" others are wrong.

We are "religiously" convinced and sure of our own ideas.

Men might agree that wives have an advantage in arguments, for instance, in that they do not have to make sense.
They are guided by womn's intuition, and they are confirmed about outcomes in regard to their husband's activies that so often turn our to be right.

go figure...

 

[Mike Elphick]

Very funny, AV

Celebrate the great achievements of the man responsible for modern psychotherapy with this Sigmund Freud Action Figure. Each 5" tall figure captures Freud in a pensive pose, holding a distinctly phallic cigar. Prop him on your desk or nightstand to inspire you to explore the depths of your unconscious and embrace the symbolism of your dreams.

Just because the out-dated Freud was the first to describe the phenomenon, does not mean that it does not exist, if that's what you are claiming.

Most creationists are indoctrinated to think that people who acknowledge the fact of evolution actually believe in it as a form of religion. Some even, after being advising to study evolution before criticising it, will frequently respond by saying this is tantamount to proselytising the religion of "evolution"!

People don't believe in evolution, they accept it as being the way life emerged and developed. It is evidence-based and what ‘evolutionists’ are saying is that they accept the fact that evolution has taken place and accept some of the principles of the theory: - that there is a struggle for existence, that there is variation and that the least adapted organisms have a diminished ability to pass on their traits to the their offspring. They also accept that this mechanism is responsible for the diversity of plants and animals seen here on earth today, including human beings.

 

[Mike Elphick]

I can’t think of any other reason for creationists thinking that evolution is a religion.

They are intuitively responding to the unique and singular belief system people have in regard to their reliance upon their Logical/mathematical Intelligence (ie, Science).

There's plenty of other scientific disciplines, yet evolution is the unique branch of science singled out to be a religion. Why?

They do not actually perceive the true insight for what they insinuate with such comments.

They don't have a "true insight", because "anti-evolutionism" is incorporated into the young Earth creationist religion and trashed as if were the cause of all modern evil, but sadly for them, proving evolution is false, or even a religion, does not make creationism true.

But they are right, in the sense we all tend to believe in one of seven, maybe eight, intellectual ways of describing the real world.

These are the multiple intelligences avilable to us, and, sadly, we all tend to use one predominantly.
We have "faith" in that way of analyzing the world as we see it.
We believe we are right.
We "know" others are wrong.

We are "religiously" convinced and sure of our own ideas.

Speak for yourself! I don't necessarily believe I am right, nor do I conclude that other people are wrong without first investigating it. I've studied creationism for many years, and have most certainly not restricted this to "science". I am a sceptic — I'm even sceptical about certain aspects of evolution — and that's quite the opposite of being "religiously" convinced and sure of my own ideas!

 

[AV1611VET]

Speak for yourself! I don't necessarily believe I am right, nor do I conclude that other people are wrong without first investigating it. I've studied creationism for many years, and have most certainly not restricted this to "science". I am a sceptic — I'm even sceptical about certain aspects of evolution — and that's quite the opposite of being "religiously" convinced and sure of my own ideas!

Why is it, that when God so painstakingly wrote and preserved the Scriptures, and tells us to learn It and be students of it, etc., that the highest you guys expect us to treat It with is skepticism?

Okay with you guys if someone actually believes what It says?

 

[cupid dave]

Just because the out-dated Freud was the first to describe the phenomenon, does not mean that it does not exist, if that's what you are claiming.

 

[AV1611VET]

I thought their consciences were supposed to be seared with an iron?

1 Timothy 4:2b having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

 

[Mike Elphick]

Why is it, that when God so painstakingly wrote and preserved the Scriptures, and tells us to learn It and be students of it, etc., that the highest you guys expect us to treat It with is skepticism?

Okay with you guys if someone actually believes what It says?

The Bible needs to be understood in the light of the beliefs prevalent during the times it was written, not in terms of what you imply is a modern-day version of "God's Word".

It is important for young Earth creationists to be literalists, or what I call biblical revisionists, for two reasons:- First, it is an absolutely essential ingredient for keeping the young Earth creationism industry afloat. Second, it offers many of the explanatory 'facts' that its victims require.

Sinning and curses explain nothing in Biology and only add to the stupidity of creationism. Life makes much more sense from the point of view of evolution and assuming either there is no God, or he's nothing like the God of the Bible.

 

[CTD]

natural selection can act only through and for the good of each being

Still no progress.

Perhaps they're waiting for us to all forget?

 

[Phred]

Why is it, that when God so painstakingly wrote and preserved the Scriptures, and tells us to learn It and be students of it, etc., that the highest you guys expect us to treat It with is skepticism?

Okay with you guys if someone actually believes what It says?

No.

Let's say your god exists. I have two ways to learn about him. I can study directly what he made, the universe. Or I can study what some ancient guys say about what he made. The Bible.

First-hand learning.

Second-hand learning from 2-4,000 year old perspectives.

No AVET... if your god exists he gave us senses to examine the universe around us with. I'm not going to ignore these senses and everything they teach us in favor of a musty old book filled with inaccuracies and claims of magic meant to impress an audience of sandal-wearing tent dwellers. If your god created us it was through and incredibly complex chain of evolution, not by magically poofing us into a garden.

So no, it's not ok if you literally believe what it says. But in your twisted mind you'll see this as "god points" and another spear you're taking for the Lord.

Sigh...

 

[Phred]

Still no progress.

Perhaps they're waiting for us to all forget?

You can harp on this all you want. It's wrong. Evolution acts for the good of the species. Not the individual. Or did you just blip over that part?

 

[AV1611VET]

It is important for young Earth creationists to be literalists, or what I call biblical revisionists, for two reasons:

Which is it? literalists or revisionists? they can't be both at the same time.

- First, it is an absolutely essential ingredient for keeping the young Earth creationism industry afloat. Second, it offers many of the explanatory 'facts' that its victims require.

Industry? victims?

I have a feeling you're so biased against YEC that you're useless as a conversant.

 

[AV1611VET]

No.

Let's say your god exists. I have two ways to learn about him. I can study directly what he made, the universe. Or I can study what some ancient guys say about what he made. The Bible.

First-hand learning.

Second-hand learning from 2-4,000 year old perspectives.

No AVET... if your god exists he gave us senses to examine the universe around us with. I'm not going to ignore these senses and everything they teach us in favor of a musty old book filled with inaccuracies and claims of magic meant to impress an audience of sandal-wearing tent dwellers. If your god created us it was through and incredibly complex chain of evolution, not by magically poofing us into a garden.

So no, it's not ok if you literally believe what it says. But in your twisted mind you'll see this as "god points" and another spear you're taking for the Lord.

Sigh...

Feel better now?

 

[Davian]

Why is it, that when God so painstakingly wrote and preserved the Scriptures, and tells us to learn It and be students of it, etc., that the highest you guys expect us to treat It with is skepticism?

Okay with you guys if someone actually believes what It says?

Tell us *why* you believe it.

 

[Mike Elphick]

As I said:-

The Bible needs to be understood in the light of the beliefs prevalent during the times it was written, not in terms of what you imply is a modern-day version of "God's Word".

Which is it? literalists or revisionists? they can't be both at the same time.

Oh, but they can! Whereas creationists CLAIM to be biblical literalists, when one examines these claims, they are clearly highly biased and embellished "interpretations" made to fit the young Earth paradigm. Other biblical experts can read the same passages and come to very different conclusions. Even I can see this!

Industry? victims?

They are indoctrinated by the huge quantity of inexpensive publications of the creationist business — CDs, books, pamphlets and web sites (the "patriot missiles" to destroy 'evolutionism', according to Ken Ham) — and they quickly fall victim to the creation illness. All this is beautifully described as Morton's Demon.

What seems to have happened is that a new and specialised type of Christianity has developed which has been sold hard in every way possible. As a consequence certain people have reaped the rewards of fame and gained the ability to control and influence their followers. Moreover, they have managed to elevate their organisations into positions of political power. I'm not suggesting they deliberately set out to establish the creationist industry with this in mind, nor that they have been financially motivated — I think it just turned out that way from the efforts of some dedicated individual evangelists. It has taken them a long time, but they have indeed been very successful, even to the point of now influencing what is taught in schools.

I have a feeling you're so biased against YEC that you're useless as a conversant.

If you don't want to converse with me, fair enough, but the OP is telling us that evolution is a religion, when is it clearly not.