Exodus is not supported by archaeology.

ruthiesea said:

My QV is that for over 50 years I’ve been reading science journals and books. I’ve also taken some masters level courses in physics, geology, and biology.

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ruthiesea said:

My QV is that for over 50 years I’ve been reading science journals and books. I’ve also taken some masters level courses in physics, geology, and biology.

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AV1611VET said:

How's that working out for you, as far as this thread is concerned?

Exodus or no-exodus?

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ruthiesea said:

I doesn’t matter if it’s true or not.

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ruthiesea said:

My QV is that for over 50 years I’ve been reading science journals and books. I’ve also taken some masters level courses in physics, geology, and biology.
The lost squadron landed in an area of ice movement such as glaciers. Ice cores are dated using radiometric dating and analysis of the gases found within them. Some gases and particle debris have been compared to known historic events such as major volcanic events and atomic detonations. By comparing these the other dating methods have been found to be accurate.

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Ophiolite said:

I have not attacked your character. I am not attacking your competence. By the way, if I was attacking your competence that would not be an attack on your character. I am puzzled that you would see it that way. For the record I have had my expertise on particular matters attacked, commented on, challenged, etc. and I have never once felt that had to do with my character.

I have pointed out that your phrasing (mention of carbon dating) is often associated with individuals who are not knowledgeable about carbon dating, but either think they are, or claim to be. I am giving you advice to help you avoid creating such perceptions in future. Christ encouraged us to help others. If my advice is not of any help to you then you are free to ignore it. If you do I shall not regret the attempt to help.

Characterising my effort to help as an attack on your character reads very much like an attack on mine. I'll set that aside and assume you have just misinterpreted my intent.

A counter argument to what? You asked a question: "Perhaps there's a flaw in the way we understand geology and carbon dating?" I've answered that question: I don't think there is a significant flaw. Since there is no argument from you, just the question, there can be no counter argument for me to offer. If you wish to specify, or exemplify possible flaws I shall be happy to address those.

Keep in mind my response to that question was primarily a matter of offering you advice, advice that you have misinterpreted and taken offence at. I took considerable care to make my intent as clear as possible. I apologise for being unsuccesful in that respect. I don't apologise for seeking to help you.

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timewerx said:

At some point in time, the Hebrews are indeed ruthless nomadic invaders feared by everyone. This is confirmed in historical accounts and in the Bible.

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sjastro said:

On the subject of carbon dating in archaeology, carbon dating can be compared to other dating techniques and found to be consistent.
For example the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus described in post #85 the author of the papyrus, the scribe Ahmes, provides a date for its compilation.

'A-user-Re' is the Egyptian regnal name for the Hyksos king Apophis and was therefore compiled around 1550 BC assuming Apophis' reign is correct.
The radiocarbon date of the papyrus is approximately 1650 BC.

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AV1611VET said:

As far as "ruthless, nomadic, invaders" is concerned ... well ... that's college talking.

It would be like someone's family going oversea on a trip for a month, coming back, and finding squatters moved into his house.

Evicting the squatters does not mean that that family is ruthless, nomadic, invaders.

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sjastro said:

The best evidence for the accuracy of carbon dating is when other dating techniques are also available.
For example when human remains are found in a tomb along with pottery, archaeologists can use radiocarbon dating on the remains and relative and absolute dating on the pottery.
Relative dating involves comparing the pottery to styles of pottery made during a particular time period.
Absolute dating involves thermoluminescence dating as described in this video.

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timewerx said:

In history, we cannot dismiss what other people think.

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timewerx said:

They still help confirm Biblical facts and only benefits the religion.

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partinobodycular said:

Except that theists are notorious for doing this, if what other people think contradicts the biblical narrative.

Therein lies the problem. When they confirm the biblical narrative theists accept them, when they don't they reject them.

Blatant confirmation bias.

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timewerx said:

It's up to you how you want to interpret it but useful information nevertheless. At the very basics, it confirms the Hebrews are at some place the Bible says they're supposed to be.

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partinobodycular said:

Except that theists are notorious for doing this, if what other people think contradicts the biblical narrative.

Therein lies the problem. When they confirm the biblical narrative theists accept them, when they don't they reject them.

Blatant confirmation bias.

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sjastro said:

Here is the archaeological summary on the historical nature of the Bible.

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sjastro said:

Here is the archaeological summary on the historical nature of the Bible.
While archaeologists agree there is a historical basis to some parts of the Bible, Exodus is not one of them.

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