"Existing"? What do you mean??

[quatona]

Hey hey quatona

How would we sufficiently define God to appease your criteria?

As you may or may not have noticed, this thread is about problems with defining the word "existing", not about problems with defining the word "God".

 

[Neogaia777]

As you may or may not have noticed, this thread is about problems with defining the word "existing", not about problems with defining the word "God".

To exist is to be conscious, aware, and we'd have to define those terms also... Conscious on who's or what level, ect... What gives one this consciousness...? How do, or can you/we tell...? To be truly conscious there has to be more to you than "this" here also, otherwise you are not... Who gives or imparts that...? And how does it happen and when or how can we tell...?

God Bless!

 

[quatona]

To exist is to be conscious, aware,

That strikes me as a very unusual definition.

 

[Neogaia777]

That strikes me as a very unusual definition.

That's what it means to truly exist...

 

[the iconoclast]

As you may or may not have noticed, this thread is about problems with defining the word "existing", not about problems with defining the word "God".

Hey hey

What problem do you have with defining the word existing re God?

Cheers

 

[quatona]

Hey hey

What problem do you have with defining the word existing re God?

Cheers

Have you read the OP?

 

[the iconoclast]

Have you read the OP?

Hey hey

I admit... i didnt . Please excuse me

My custom title ("God"? What do you mean??) points out that "God" isn´t sufficiently well defined to make the question "Does God exist?" a two value question (yes/no).

What do you mean God isnt sufficiently defined to make the question "does God exist?" A two value question?

But it seems to me that there´s a similar problem with the other keyterm - "existing":

"Existing"? What do you mean??" or possibly even better: "Existing? In which way??"

Well existing means; in existence or operation at the current time.

Exist means to have objective reality or being - linked to draw breath (.eg alive).

Objective is to not be influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Exist is also to occur or be found, especially in a particular place or situation. Seek and you shall find. Knock and rhe door will be opened.

God first identified Himself as IAM! That in it self is a declaration of existing.

What say you?

Do thoughts, ideas, feelings, beliefs exist? Do objects exist? Does love exist? Do processes exist? Do relationships exist? Do movements exist? Do abstractions exist?

What is the meaning here? How would you like me to answer this?

Typically, these questions are answered "yes" without much hesitation - even though these answers imply very different meanings of "existing", and some of these meanings would allow for "Yes, God exists" even to me as a non-believer.

How would you describe your existance? How do you know you exist? How do you prove it to me?

Cheers hey

 

[quatona]

What do you mean God isnt sufficiently defined to make the question "does God exist?" A two value question?

This is not the topic here.

Well existing means; in existence or operation at the current time.

Exist means to have objective reality or being - linked to draw breath (.eg alive).

Objective is to not be influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Exist is also to occur or be found, especially in a particular place or situation. Seek and you shall find. Knock and rhe door will be opened.

Ok.

What is the meaning here? How would you like me to answer this?

By applying your above given definitions, of course.

 

[the iconoclast]

This is not the topic here.




Ok.





By applying your above given definitions, of course.

Well folks, quatona failed to defend his position another one bites the dust.

What do you mean God?
I mean the christian God quatona.

Cheers hey