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EXCLUSIVE–Voicemails: ‘Ben Carson Suspending Campaigning’; Cruz: ‘Accurate Report’

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Lol. If someone tried to run with complete honesty he wouldn't get 1% of the vote.
I think Christians should be honest no matter what the job they hold but there is always a temptation to be a little dishonest when honesty cost us something.
Is that a personal confession? That last part?
Isn't that contrary to what you're suppose to be as a Christian? Tempted to be dishonest when truth could cost something?

That wager scenario is pretty much a spit in the face of every Christian martyr isn't it?
 
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He prayed for six months asking God if he should run...apparently God said yes. Now Cruz needs to smear other people in order to win? Do you believe God approves?
Smeared? :scratch:

You've now officially jumped the shark.
 
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Also, Cruz apologized to Carson for the mistake. That shows integrity and personal responsibility on Cruz's part.
No it doesn't.
Cruz apologized to Dr.Carson and then said he stood behind what his campaign did.
That Cruz said he stood behind what his campaign did after he apologized for it is the ultimate flip-flop. And it revoked his act of contrition in its entirety.

It's like someone who's best friend steals a man's car. That man apologizes to the car owner for the theft and then in another atmosphere says he's OK with his best friend having stolen that man's car.
 
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Smeared? :scratch:

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Lying about a fellow candidate leaving the race while a caucus is in full swing isn't a smear?
And regardless of how Cruz fan's want to spin it, the moment Cruz apologized to Ben Carson was the moment he admitted he had something to apologize for; a lie about Ben Carson.
That Cruz then and out of Dr.Carson's presence said he stood behind what his campaign did showed that Cruz is not only a liar, but he has no integrity and he's a flip flopper. And that he lied again when he apologized for what he later said he supported.

Ted Cruz's immorality is its own smear.
 
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Is that a personal confession? That last part?
Isn't that contrary to what you're suppose to be as a Christian? Tempted to be dishonest when truth could cost something?

That wager scenario is pretty much a spit in the face of every Christian martyr isn't it?
So you have never been tempted to lie before? The flesh can not be redeem just it the scripture claims. That's why we as Christian are to bring it into subjection.
By the way I don't put my faith in my own righteousness but the righteousness of Jesus Christ. Jesus teaches me to pray that I'm not lead into temptation as He knows my heart is willing but my flesh is weak.
 
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Did that change? Were you planning to vote for Cruz prior to the Iowa caucuses?
I wasn't quite sure, but I had been seriously considering him. Now I'm very unsure.
 
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As an Australian I know I don't have much background to comment on American politics however I would just like to point out that Ted Cruz's comments re our Australian gun laws was total fabrication. So how could you trust someone who is prepared to lie? Shame on you Ted Cruz
 
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As an Australian I know I don't have much background to comment on American politics however I would just like to point out that Ted Cruz's comments re our Australian gun laws was total fabrication. So how could you trust someone who is prepared to lie? Shame on you Ted Cruz
Which is why I don't trust big government to look out what best for me.
 
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Well if he gets in pity help the world! However in saying that an old neighbour of mine once said the very characteristics that make someone run for politics are the very characteristics the country does not need once they are there. Looking at the candidates I guess your choices are quite limited on both sides hence my old neighbours musings were right on the money.
If I was an American Christian and knew a professing Christian candidate was lying for self promotion I could not support them. We had the same with our last PM.
 
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OK I get it, you don't trust the people Americans vote into power because Americans only seem to pick liars and cheats.
This whole issue is about " we can't trust stupid voters to think for themselves and must have been deceived by Cruz."
 
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Why is that? people in other countries generally trust their governments, are you afraid of what your government might do?
I don't trust my government to do the right thing. They are beholden to multi national companies. Here people expect government to do EVERYTHING for them. Too many don't be proactive to help themselves or prepare for any disaster. Therefore don't see their individual freedoms being eroded away. We are a complete Nanna State
 
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Take for example your non-stop smearing of Cruz. You've repeatedly, and with abandon, accused him of outright lying when he did nothing of the sort.

Ben Carson took time off the campaign trail and down-sized his campaign. The natural consequences of Ben Carson's decisions led reasonable people to draw reasonable conclusions ... and to act reasonably on those conclusions. It's really that simple.
 
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Why is that? people in other countries generally trust their governments, are you afraid of what your government might do?
Wow! That statement is disconnected from both history and recent world events.

People throughout the world are regularly and repeatedly betrayed by their governments, often with dire consequences.
 
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Take for example your non-stop smearing of Cruz. You've repeatedly, and with abandon, accused him of outright lying when he did nothing of the sort.

Ben Carson took time off the campaign trail and down-sized his campaign. The natural consequences of Ben Carson's decisions led reasonable people to draw reasonable conclusions ... and to act reasonably on those conclusions. It's really that simple.

Well I'm not sure about this Ben Carson thing but I can categorically state he lied to the American public about Australian gun laws so I believe he is prepared to lie. End of story. Maybe our gun laws aren't important but the lying is.
 
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