EXCLUSIVE–Voicemails: ‘Ben Carson Suspending Campaigning’; Cruz: ‘Accurate Report’

[NightHawkeye]

Well I'm not sure about this Ben Carson thing but I can categorically state he lied to the American public about Australian gun laws so I believe he is prepared to lie. End of story. Maybe our gun laws aren't important but the lying is.

Noting that paraphrasing and simplifications are not lying. It is telling though that rather than expanding on the subject matter, political expediency leads some to make lying accusations about lying instead.

Just for the record ...
Australia’s 1996 Gun Confiscation Didn’t Work – And it Wouldn’t Work in America | National Review

 

[Tiny Bible]

Only a politician can call a bold faced lie an accurate report.

It's a very simple equation here. Dr.Ben Carson did not suspend his campaign. When Cruz said he did and his staff made robo-calls to the electorate in Iowa and sent emails while the Iowa caucus was underway stating that Dr.Ben Carson had suspended his campaign that's fraud. That Cruz benefited from that should cost him the race if the RNC had any integrity at all.

Otherwise, I hope an investigation is launched so as to find out if he and all conspirators can be prosecuted for it.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Only a politician can call a bold faced lie an accurate report.

It's a very simple equation here. Dr.Ben Carson did not suspend his campaign. When Cruz said he did ...

Why are you spreading falsehoods about Ted Cruz? He never made any such statement.

 

[Alinta]

Noting that paraphrasing and simplifications are not lying. It is telling though that rather than expanding on the subject matter, political expediency leads some to make lying accusations about lying instead.

Just for the record ...
Australia’s 1996 Gun Confiscation Didn’t Work – And it Wouldn’t Work in America | National Review

With Christine Neill, an expatriate Australian living in Canada, I set about analysing data on the buyback. One result was rock solid. In the decade before the gun buyback, Australia averaged more than one mass shooting per year (a mass shooting is where five or more people are killed). Between 1987 and 1996, a total of ninety-four victims were killed in mass shootings. Apart from Hoddle Street and Port Arthur, there were also mass shootings in the Top End (Northern Territory and Western Australia), Canley Vale (New South Wales), Queen Street (Victoria), Oenpelli (Northern Territory), Surry Hills (New South Wales), Strathfield (New South Wales), Terrigal (New South Wales), Cangai (New South Wales) and Hillcrest (Queensland).

In the decade after the laws were changed, there was not a single mass shooting in Australia. The chance of this change being due to luck alone is less than one-in-a-hundred. Judged by whether it prevented mass shootings, the Australian gun buyback was an unmitigated success. Yet impressive though this is, the number of people killed in mass shootings has never been particularly large. Even during the worst period for gun massacres, the odds of being killed in a mass shooting were about as large as the chances of being killed by a lightning strike. http://insidestory.org.au/the-upsides-of-the-buyback

The I was Andrew Leigh eminent scholar who has done extensive research.
I can't find the credentials for Mark Antonio Wright the author of your paper.
And before anyone thinks I am against guns we are farmers with licensed guns.

Again I state the comments made by Ted Cruz re our gun laws were not true not whether our gun laws would work in the U.S.

 

[NightHawkeye]

With Christine Neill, an expatriate Australian living in Canada, I set about analysing data on the buyback. One result was rock solid. In the decade before the gun buyback, Australia averaged more than one mass shooting per year (a mass shooting is where five or more people are killed). Between 1987 and 1996, a total of ninety-four victims were killed in mass shootings. Apart from Hoddle Street and Port Arthur, there were also mass shootings in the Top End (Northern Territory and Western Australia), Canley Vale (New South Wales), Queen Street (Victoria), Oenpelli (Northern Territory), Surry Hills (New South Wales), Strathfield (New South Wales), Terrigal (New South Wales), Cangai (New South Wales) and Hillcrest (Queensland).

In the decade after the laws were changed, there was not a single mass shooting in Australia. The chance of this change being due to luck alone is less than one-in-a-hundred. Judged by whether it prevented mass shootings, the Australian gun buyback was an unmitigated success. Yet impressive though this is, the number of people killed in mass shootings has never been particularly large. Even during the worst period for gun massacres, the odds of being killed in a mass shooting were about as large as the chances of being killed by a lightning strike. http://insidestory.org.au/the-upsides-of-the-buyback

The I was Andrew Leigh eminent scholar who has done extensive research.
I can't find the credentials for Mark Antonio Wright the author of your paper.
And before anyone thinks I am against guns we are farmers with licensed guns.

Again I state the comments made by Ted Cruz re our gun laws were not true not whether our gun laws would work in the U.S.

That you disagree with his assessment of Australian gun laws is no indicator of his having lied.

 

[Blondepudding]

Only a politician can call a bold faced lie an accurate report.

It's a very simple equation here. Dr.Ben Carson did not suspend his campaign. When Cruz said he did and his staff made robo-calls to the electorate in Iowa and sent emails while the Iowa caucus was underway stating that Dr.Ben Carson had suspended his campaign that's fraud. That Cruz benefited from that should cost him the race if the RNC had any integrity at all.

Otherwise, I hope an investigation is launched so as to find out if he and all conspirators can be prosecuted for it.

I wager it will never happen. If the RNC bounced Cruz for his lack of integrity and cowardice they'd be expected to scrutinize everyone else. Though I would think an independent investigation could see how impacting the Cruz camp's lie, fraud, was on Carson's numbers in Iowa. Maybe something could be done to prosecute. I don't know about how that works at all.

But wouldn't that be a hoot? And what a warning it would send this election for others thinking to go as gutter as Cruz has thus far. And it's only a few days to the first primary and nine months to the election. Lots of time for him to scheme new plots against his opponents.

Trump squacked about Cruz's lie, fraud, against Dr.Carson. Now he's saying he may choose him as his VP and is giving him accolade too? After he's slammed Cruz in the past? Trump doesn't sound all that stable himself. Or maybe he's just carrying his TV character over the top to see just how silly the electorate is should he actually get the nomination. And should he, he's proved that point about the electorate. Silly wouldn't be the word I'd use if he does get on the ticket.
Out of their flippin mind, would be more fitting.

But you know, the state we're in as a nation thanks to Obama for eight years and a pathetic Congress on both sides of the aisle, maybe a businessman that brings failing companies back from the brink is what is thought to be needed this election.
The character Trump plays on the campaign trail fallen away should he get the White house, we'll see what the real business shark looks like.

Eeee, that's a scary thought come to put that into a visual for myself.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I think Cruz just had the misfortune of being the first one to run with this when it all went down. One of Rubio's main supporters ALSO tweeted out that Carson was leaving, in a similar fashion to how Steve King tweeted. That didn't seem to be the radar here.

And truly, if I was a Carson supporter and I figured he was dropping out, I wouldn't wast my caucus vote on him.

Dana Perino said that Carson's decision to go home for a change of clothes was basically weird and unheard of.

I can't help but wonder if he WAS going to drop out, and then with the kerfluffle, changed his mind. Normally, candidates with his percentages don't last long after Iowa.