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I think you misunderstand that verse. Paul is talking about a sectarian following of certain leaders
Whatever Paul said for instruction, ALWAYS has an application for us today.
Keras reading Dr Paul Barnett or William Dumbrell or Graeme Goldsworthy or David Hohne? Imagine that!?
Nah.
I'm busy watching the NZ provincial Supersmash cricket matches!

But I just bought the third edition of John Bright's - A History of Israel. I will let you know if I find any battles that match the Prophesies of fire destroying the enemies.
 
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Whatever Paul said for instruction, ALWAYS has an application for us today.
Um, yeah? Of course? You have not understood what I'm saying. Are you sleeping OK? Or is the match you're watching getting in the way with your comprehension?
 
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Um, yeah? Of course? You have not understood what I'm saying. Are you sleeping OK? Or is the match you're watching getting in the way with your comprehension?
We view the Prophetic Word thru different lenses.
Only after the Lord's Day of wrath, will most people finally comprehend the Prophesies. Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 29:18 & 24
 
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We view the Prophetic Word thru different lenses.
Only after the Lord's Day of wrath, will most people finally comprehend the Prophesies. Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 29:18 & 24
We have VERY different views of scripture! I thought the main big ideas in scripture were 'perspicuous' - that is - clear. The Westminster Confession of faith - and all that jazz. At least regarding the main ideas and doctrines. Like, for example, that the Lord returns like a thief on Judgement Day is fairly clear. At least in my circles.

I guess when you 'discover' something 'new' in scripture - is it any surprise you're forced into attacking how 'dumb' and 'stubborn' the rest of your brothers and sisters in Christ are when they don't see what you alone see? :doh:

Only on the horribly terribly unbelievably bad day of fire
will the rest of us see!
Finally - there's something on which we agree!

You've proved nothing to me after 5 years of really bad eisegesis.
I admit it. I will have to see it to believe it!
(Because the bible certainly doesn't teach it.)

But here's the bottom line, rubber hits the road question.

What on earth is it you want from us?

For us to bow down in awe and say "Keras, you da man! You da MAN! We never saw that dope stuff - you da GOAT!"

What would you have us DO about all this random information?

Also - IF there's something we are meant to be do - how do we know you've got it right this time?

Imagine
if I had been a gullible simpleton and believed you last time?

Imagine I took concrete action and sold my house so I could devote myself to sharing the gospel full time - and I had just enough finances left to last me until I was safely rescued under your last timetable?

And then I wake up one day - and you've changed the timetable?

The timetable you were 'perfectly confident' in last time?

Don't you see how you just don't get to behave the way you are now - all smug and self-confident - when you just keep changing it on us?

( A refresher for anyone that missed it the last few dozen times I've shared it with Keras without him even blinking or blushing! )

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations


"I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world".
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Subtract 3.5 years from his 2029.5 for his literal AOD, and the AOD is January 2026!
“The Return will not be unexpected, as that will occur exactly 1260 days after the leader of the One World Govt sits in the Temple”.
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations
 
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"I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world".
I believed that Haggai gives us the Day, he writes - three times; the 24 day of Kislev. But the YEAR we cannot know.
What on earth is it you want from us?
My desire is for people to be aware of what God has planned for our future. I also post against false theories, wrong ideas like the rapture to heaven and the incredible notion that we are in the Millennium now.
Subtract 3.5 years from his 2029.5 for his literal AOD, and the AOD is January 2026!
Get it right! The Abomination of Desolation, that is when the beast sits in the new Temple, 2 Thess 2:4, will be about 2030, The Return; 2033
“The Return will not be unexpected, as that will occur exactly 1260 days after the leader of the One World Govt sits in the Temple”. Quote Keras.
Like, for example, that the Lord returns like a thief on Judgement Day is fairly clear. At least in my circles.
This is a demonstration of how you and others mis-read scripture. You say the Lord will Return 'like a thief'. But 1 Thess 4:16 and Revelation 19:11-16; say Jesus will come in power and glory, at the time the Holy Land will be invaded by a huge army. Rev 19:19
Coming unexpectedly, applies to the Day the Lord will send His fiery wrath and changes the world, to prepare for the glorious Return, some years later.
 
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Get it right! The Abomination of Desolation, that is when the beast sits in the new Temple, 2 Thess 2:4, will be about 2030, The Return; 2033
No - you get it right! I'm following the work of the Lord's Humble Servant! Who are you to challenge him?

And I quote, from paragraph 10,000 of the Lord's Humble Servant's first volume of online works,

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."​

By what authority do you dare challenge this man's work!? Ashamed as I am to admit it now - I did doubt the Lord's Humble Servant - and shared this with him. He spaketh the following unto me - even me!

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth. And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6“​

And when I did question-eth about the times, he did explain at great length-eth, which I summarise below as:-

“2020 AD + 9.5 = 2029.5 AD Exactly 2000 years for the present Church age”
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

That means the AOD is most assuredly to be seen in January 2026.
The Lord's Humble Servant has spake it.
It cannot be unspaken.
(Nudge nudge wink wink)
 
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