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Ask them why don't they submit their work to the mainstream scientific community. Their peer review lacks academic excellence. True peer review is reviewed by experts is the specific field of the submitted research. Very little of their published work is done by actual people who are experts in the research field topic, much less reviewed by actual experts in those fields. And I have yet to see any of their papers present any "original" research with actual original data.Do you know a way to get more people to write academic papers?
You may be surprised how many creation science journals there are today. So scientists are writing and being peer reviewed.
http://nwcreation.net/journalcreation.html
(Emphasis in bold)That may be in some areas, but even there, I'll bet that more is going on.
Even not teaching evolution directly, how many references would there be to the ancient age of the earth and universe, and where plants and animals changed and evolved over time to become us?
If evolution is not a fact of nature, then why do we not see contradicting evidence published in the scientific literature? What is taught in the education system is what the scientific evidence reveals and is documented in the scientific literature. If it can be shown that ToE is incorrect, it would be removed from the classroom.Throwing evolution at kids as a fact of nature, like the periodic table, is doing a disservice to education.
Let me set the record straight about the charges that sent Kent Hovind and his wife to prison. I have read the actual court transcripts of Kent's case. Some context, I attended college with Kent. We were best friends back in the early 70's. I know in the hater's minds out there that discredits anything else I say but I am going to say it anyway.
Kent was convicted of violating structuring laws which were designed to catch drug dealers and money launderers. The IRS recently apologized for jailing innocent citizens like Kent who were simply withdrawing their own money out of the bank. In Kent's case it was to meet payroll and other expenses. There are hundreds of people like Kent mostly small business people who are sitting in prison because of this law that has been misapplied to normally law abiding citizens. He was not convicted of tax evasion. All of Kent's employees were independent contractors and responsible for paying their own taxes. The Dinosaur Adventurer land property along with his home which also contained the ministry offices was owned by the ministry not Kent.
On a personal note. Kent did not begin this ministry to make lots of money. This assessment is from being a college roommate and observing his life over the past forty years. Kent is not materialistic. He wears the same four of five suits he had in college. He buys old cars and fixes them up himself. He is the quintessential penny pincher. He and his wife Jo live very frugally. The majority of the money his ministry takes in is used for building projects, producing videos and other materials which are not copyrighted. I know Kent's haters will not believe a word of this but it is the absolute truth!
Let me also add that I do not endorse everything Kent teachers about creationism and other topics but I defend his right to do it. It saddens me about the controversy over his doctorate. I earned a legitimate PhD. and it grieves me that Kent has to continually answer questions about where he earned his degree. Kent could have earned an accredited doctorate but like many others took the easier cheaper route. BTW he did complete actual courses and did not simply send in money for his diploma.
Finally, let me say having spent thousands of hours with Kent and his wife Jo they are two of the most gracious and kind people in the world. Kent would give you the shirt off his back. When we were in college and both working at General Motors Truck and Coach, when he saw a car broke down on the side of the road he would always stop to help, even if it meant we would be late for an appointment. I realize my words will fall on deaf ears to those who have already made up their mind about Kent. The sad thing is their opinions are based on skewed information found on the internet by those who are biased against creationism and have no firsthand knowledge of the facts surrounded Kent's character, his ministry or his conviction. I just wanted to set the record straight on a few things that I believe have been distorted and misrepresented!
He has to the chance to defend himself against the charges and that didn't go over all too well.
So, look past your "hate" for the guy. He is a creationist, and a good one.
Kent is a very intelligent
If they were, why's he been in prison all this time?I thought the charges were dismissed. Were they not?
If they were, why's he been in prison all this time?
Thank you so much for clearing up any misconceptions that any of us here had of Kent.
Great post.
They were dismissed in May 2015, after he served the 10 years
I thought the charges were dismissed. Were they not?
The way I see it is that there is a lot of very wealthy people that pay good accountants to do exactly what Kent was doing, and worse.
I thought the charges were dismissed. Were they not?
The way I see it is that there is a lot of very wealthy people that pay good accountants to do exactly what Kent was doing, and worse. They pay these accountants to find loop holes and then litigate with the IRS anytime they are flagged. Many are doing illegal things but it would cost the close to bankrupt US government too much to go after them. It's a cost versus return thing......
This procedure, that Kent used, is not new. It is carried out by thousands of big businesses. Loop holes are huge cash cows. Even if this is a loop hole or just a guppy in a big pond that the IRS could go after.
So, look past your "hate" for the guy. He is a creationist, and a good one. I know discrediting him would be a great feather in you cap but...... let it go. With that post by Dr. Shanlian nothing should be too confusing for you.
Kent is a very intelligent, wise, upstanding guy that used the revenue laws of the states to help him stretch his dollars to support God's work. Then, their suit against him lead to hundreds more being lead to Christ and put Kent and his ministry in the news where curious people can now find the truth that they are looking for.
No, there were additional charges that they tried to put on Hovind. He was found guilty of one of those charges, though a judge overturned that finding. The rest of the charges could be filed again but it looks like they are letting him go for now.They were dismissed in May 2015, after he served the 10 years
Nobody who isn't a creationist thinks his work is legitimate. But forget about non-creationists. Even the other creationist orgs think his work is fraudulent. That's pretty bad.
Sounds like Ron Wyatt. Even AiG and ICR will tell you that his work on Noah's Ark was fraudulent.
You know, it is amazing that they would do that, yet let all the incredibly bad science, misrepresentations, quote mines, etc., still stand. That type of behavior is exactly what the bible describes as unacceptable.Sounds like Ron Wyatt. Even AiG and ICR will tell you that his work on Noah's Ark was fraudulent.
Sounds like Ron Wyatt. Even AiG and ICR will tell you that his work on Noah's Ark was fraudulent.
With that in mind, I find your second link (response to Hovind) incredibly beguiling. One of the authors is Carl Wieland. Weiland has a published article on the "Lost Squadron", supposedly disproving ice core chronology, as bad as anything that Hovind has ever presented.Oh, yeah. In fact, this started with AiG writing a counter point to Hovind's arguments that did everything but name Hovind explicitly:
Arguments we think creationists should not use
Hovind objected to the list, naturally, and the response was:
Maintaining Creationist Integrity (a response to Kent Hovind)
Even with the kid-gloves they put on, one really feels embarrassed on behalf of Mr. Hovind.
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