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Evolution's Brick Wall

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This thread is about how evolutionists use conjecture to promote evolution.

You ridicule those of faith, the many faiths of the world, but do not address your own - evolution.

Any thread on here about evolution inevitably ends up being about religion. Religious objection to evolutionary science, that is.
 
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Evolution is conjecture-based.

No, it's evidence based.

It requires faith to accept.

No, you don't require faith when you have evidence.

The foundation of evolution is not based on science.

Except that it is.

From your head you have to believe that it has happened.

No, it's all very observable and testable.

Zero detail morphological changes of fossils between lifeforms that shows by detailed one evolved into the other.

This is off course incorrect, as I have shown you on multiple occasions.

Zero evidence, only conjecture.

Here's what you sound like in this post:

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Others have felt Allah. But you happily discard their experiences. Why is that?

God did things with my life, not allah, and there can be only 1 true religion. I'm not converting to islam anytime soon.
 
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God did things with my life, not allah, and there can be only 1 true religion. I'm not converting to islam anytime soon.
I think he's asking you why you discard a CONVERT OR DIE god, in favor of a LOVE THINE ENEMY one.
 
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Is obvious that the bones on the front of the head are very different
What are your professional qualifications to make that assessment? What are your professional qualifications that allow you to characterise the differences as "very different"? Do you have any professional qualifications that would justify considering your statement as anything other than an uninformed opinion?
 
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What are your professional qualifications to make that assessment? What are your professional qualifications that allow you to characterise the differences as "very different"? Do you have any professional qualifications that would justify considering your statement as anything other than an uninformed opinion?

I have no qualifications, i need one to say they are different? they are.
 
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I have no qualifications, i need one to say they are different? they are.
No. They are obviously different. You need no qualification other than those possessed by most humans.

What you do need some qualifications for is to make a deduction from that basic observation regarding the relationship between the examples in the illustration. These are the viable alternatives:
1. Accept the judgement of experts in the matter.
2. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of detailed analysis conducted via relevant expertise.
3. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of personal incredulity.
4. Reject the judgement of experts because they conflict with your religious beliefs.

Rejecting the judgement of experts on the basis of uninformed opinion is not a viable option. Option 3 and Option 4 are opinions and have no relevance in a discussion on science.Hold fast to your beliefs. Reject evolution. That is your right, but do not degrade yourself by amateurish attempts to challenge the conclusions of hundreds of experts.
 
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And some members do not wish to face up to repeated requests to address a question that refutes their central argument. Here it is again: What is your objection to the notion that the increase of complexity in ammonite sutures throughout the Mezozoic does not demonstrate evolution?

Heissonear, I can keep this up till you have the courtesy to respond, or until you succeed in getting me banned. Your choice.
Fall in line to what is requsted to be presented.

Show the detailed morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another lifeform over time.

This includes a sequence of your favorite ammonite - show someting that evolved from ammonites - show us all how an ammonite started to morphologically change into another lifeform. You know, what evolution says has happened to all creatures we see on earth.

Why do you not show any sequence of fossils between lifeforms that shows by detailed evolution from one lifeform into another lifeform over time in the fossil record to show evolution happened?

Step in line to the post requests - and show the major obvious evidence that should exist to prove evolution by clear observation.

Is this clear? Fossil evidence between any two lifeforms that shows by detailed evolution occurred.

Why do you not supply the obvious for proving evolution? Is it because the fossils between lifeforms do not exist? Is that the reason?

Is it because the missing fossils show evolution never occurred?

Are you saying that the fossils do not exist and godless Earth scientists are playing connect the dots by use of conjecture in place of scientific evidence?
 
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I have no qualifications, i need one to say they are different? they are.
You may want to rethink posting against these overly aggressive debaters who look for any error to magnify against you.

Do they show they are stern evolutionists aiming to put down those who have the Bible and God to lead them in this subject matter.

This thread is about the missing fossil record evidence they need to face up to.
 
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Is it because the missing fossils show evolution never occurred?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. And especially since there already exist fossils showing morphological progressions over time; refusing to acknowledge what does exist is just silly.
 
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No. They are obviously different. You need no qualification other than those possessed by most humans.

What you do need some qualifications for is to make a deduction from that basic observation regarding the relationship between the examples in the illustration. These are the viable alternatives:
1. Accept the judgement of experts in the matter.
2. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of detailed analysis conducted via relevant expertise.
3. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of personal incredulity.
4. Reject the judgement of experts because they conflict with your religious beliefs.

Rejecting the judgement of experts on the basis of uninformed opinion is not a viable option. Option 3 and Option 4 are opinions and have no relevance in a discussion on science.Hold fast to your beliefs. Reject evolution. That is your right, but do not degrade yourself by amateurish attempts to challenge the conclusions of hundreds of experts.

I can't see me disagreeing with science in anything except evolution, so its not bad that i do so because i have sincere disagreements with it. I'm not less than you or anyone else because of that, maybe i'm actually right, that life is designed because it seems so that way. And like i posted before random mutation with natural selection and all that can't build anything, that a very weak spot in evolution. There would be computer simulations about it but there is nothing.
 
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You may want to rethink posting against these overly aggressive debaters who look for any error to magnify against you.

Do they show they are stern evolutionists aiming to put down those who have the Bible and God to lead them in this subject matter.

This thread is about the missing fossil record evidence they need to face up to.

Ah yes, the agressive atheist etc. Like i'm going maybe to get offended and all...
 
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No. They are obviously different. You need no qualification other than those possessed by most humans.

What you do need some qualifications for is to make a deduction from that basic observation regarding the relationship between the examples in the illustration. These are the viable alternatives:
1. Accept the judgement of experts in the matter.
2. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of detailed analysis conducted via relevant expertise.
3. Reject the judgement of experts on the basis of personal incredulity.
4. Reject the judgement of experts because they conflict with your religious beliefs.

Rejecting the judgement of experts on the basis of uninformed opinion is not a viable option. Option 3 and Option 4 are opinions and have no relevance in a discussion on science.Hold fast to your beliefs. Reject evolution. That is your right, but do not degrade yourself by amateurish attempts to challenge the conclusions of hundreds of experts.
A lot of chit chat talk that looks like you want to be an Elite in godless evolution knowledge.

Elite over the less informed or educated.

Whatvyou still have not done is supply the fossils showing detailed morphological changes between lifeforms that shows by detailed evolution occurred.

If such fossils do not exist, showing in morphological details one lifeform changing into another lifeform over time then your foundation supporting evolution is conjecture-based - not scientifically based.

It would mean as per OP evolution has hit a wall. And scraps of conjecture are everywhere.
 
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Ah yes, the agressive atheist etc. Like i'm going maybe to get offended and all...
Be good soil. Let God's word reside and grow within your heart. Let others take on these void of the Spirit evolutionists who push God's faithful around.
 
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Some scientists say (don’t ask me to quote anything, it’s there, look for yourself :)) that our family tree is more like a huge bush, with so many branches that lead to dead ends (not enough transition fossils found to seal the deal -- a brick wall) that it may be impossible to ever fill the gap and find a verifiable route from ape to the modern man.

I have often times found myself thinking “man, there appears to be a lot of evidence there, presented by knowledgeable people”... but it never pans out.

How long will it take for academia's and evolutionists to admit that Creation is the likely option if no such route is found, 100 years, 200 years, 500 years, never?

So its your contention that because the scientists are able to construct enough alternate pathways for our evolution to have occurred as to be uncertain which one was correct that this means evolution did not occur. I'm sorry, that's just nutty.
 
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