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Evolution's Brick Wall

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Very solid evidence of how one Kind has in only 150 years by man's guidance generate after its Kind a spectrum of breeds.
Laboratory evidence, the best kind.....
 
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Not even sure there is a "who".

But that is completely beside the point. Regardless of what you personally believe about the origin of things, the scientific and technological advancements you enjoy are a result of people being curious about things and figuring out how the universe works.
The things I enjoy were one and all invented by Christians looking to explain Gods creation being He is a God of law, not randomness.

What we have today is merely improvements on the basic science worked out by Christians.....

They expected to be able to figure things out because they understood a Universe created by a God of law would have laws one could figure out and write down to better mankind.

Whether you want to discuss Newton, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell, Lorentz, Pasteur or any of the multitudes that were believers.....

Today most are not, and so science only improves upon what came before.....
 
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You wrote "academians" and it should have been "academicians".
I'm aware of the misspelling, as my spell checker flags it all the time.

But it's a word I coined some time ago, and I like it better.
 
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The things I enjoy were one and all invented by Christians

The roots of science (among other branches of knowledge) owe more than just Christians. Muslims made significant contributions to mathematics, astronomy, chemistry, etc.

They expected to be able to figure things out because they understood a Universe created by a God of law would have laws one could figure out and write down to better mankind.

Maybe you should tell that to AV. He seems to have some issues with science...

(I get the feeling he lost a g/f to an academic.)
 
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(I get the feeling he lost a g/f to an academic.)
^_^

Married my sweetie when she was 19 and I was 20, over 43 years ago.

She's my first and only. :oldthumbsup:

For the record:
I tripped over a science book when I was a kid, and fell down three flights of stairs --- I've hated science ever since.
 
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(I tripped over a science book when I was a kid, and fell down three flights of stairs --- I've hated science ever since.)
Was it the Bible? ;)
 
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Except that's not correct since there are other types of canines that exist that cannot crossbreed. Dingoes, coyotes, jackals, foxes, raccoon dogs, dholes, maned wolves, culpeos, bush dogs, African wild dogs...

I like how @Heissonear decided to ignore this.
 
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The Creator formed Family of Creatures, all being different Kinds but having smilarities in form.

The Families of different Kinds are seen in other Crearures: birds, spiders: cats, bats, etc.

In connect the dots the godless scientists have a hard time in these Family domains. Some by use of intelligence and systematic classification scheme may try to set God to the side in His Creation.

Now, show the fossils proving the rise of different dogs from implied ancestoral dogs as shown in the speculative schematic. All we see are different dog-frame-like Creatures. And any variations of these being variations, not sequences showing step-by-step detailed morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another.

You have picked a domain where you are prone to connect Creatores by conjecture, like with birds, spiders, bats, etc.

Evolution leaves out the Creator and His Works and Purposes.

Evolutionary Biology puts man at the center and his godless promotion of evolution.

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Evolutionary Biology puts man at the center and his godless promotion of evolution.
You think? That's laughable. The majority of biologists and pretty well all palaeontologists couldn't give a stuffed kanagaroo about human evolution. In my own undergraduate course we tolerated the lectures on vertebrate palaeontology only because the lecturer was outstanding. The interesting stuff were the taxa such as brachiopods, graptolites, foraminifera, etc. You know, the ones that provided insights into climate, ecology, evolutionary trajectories, correlations and the like.
 
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Ok, time to build the wall.....

Evolutionists, what is needed for Abiogenesis to start life????

Your off to a poor start, and you must know why.

Why do you continue to insist that abiogenesis has anything to do with evolution, when it has been explained to you countless times, that it doesn't matter how life started; evolution only deals with how life changes once it is already here?
 
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Maybe you should tell that to AV. He seems to have some issues with science...

(I get the feeling he lost a g/f to an academic.)

That's not quite stating things correctly.

AV has made his stance on science perfectly clear.....

1. Bible says X, science says X = go with X
2. Bible says X, science says Y = go with X
3. Bible says Ø, science says Y = go with Y
4. Bible says Ø, science says Ø = speculate
 
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