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Evolutionary Science is a fairytale

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Nothing is more humorous than when an evolutionist pokes fun at creationists or IDists for not putting forth a scientific theory to explain life.

First of all, life is not scientific -- life is spirtual. Contrary to what evolutionists say, what makes us human is not the shape of our jaw bone or the size of our heads. Life is something that controls and manipulates the matter it occupies. Thus, those who claim to be able to describe life scientifically are kidding themselves because life is more than material -- it's metaphysical, which by defintion is in conflict with science. Science is the study of the material world.

So when evolutionists scoff at Creationists for not putting forth a scientific theory for life, I believe they are asking us to play a game, which includes defining life according to a flawed premise.

But what's truly laughable about all this is that the "science" evolutionists put forth is not science at all. Like I said, "science" is (or should be) the study of the material world. But what the world's evolutionists have forced down our kids' throats is not science. Instead it's long list of "what ifs," "probablys," "maybes," and "more-than-likelys." What they're attempting to sell the unsuspecting public is not to be found in nature -- it's found in their books.

And their so-called evidence is NEVER visible. Never. For example, every creature on earth is said to have evolved from a common ancestor. Thus there must, be thousands and thousands of common ancestors that link each creature to the next. For example, lions and tigers must have a common ancestor....man and ape must have a common ancestor...squirrels and skunks must have a common ancestor...bats and whales must have a common ancestor. Of course none of these common ancestors have been found -- or will ever be found -- but we're just supposed to take their word for it because they know more than us. But the reality is, this is not science -- this is nothing but brain-rotting blind faith in an intellectually bankrupt theory.

But the fairytale doesn't stop there. Evolutionists have made a living the past 75 years on the Big Joke that is the unseen beneficial random mutation. I honestly believe this is the most ridiculous aspect of the whole theory. The notion that a once-in-a-multi-million chance mutation can be beneficial and spread throughout a population via sexual reproduction is truly outrageous -- especially when you consider that populations are often separated by hundreds or thousands of miles and mutations are 99% destructive and/or deadly. Not only that, but a grand total of only 4,000 hominid bones have been dug up...(this includes humans, australopithecus, Neanderthals, Homo erectus, etc) Thus, there simply is not enough of a population for the likely occurrence of beneficial random mutations. Of course cumulative selection of thousands of such mutations has never -- and will never -- be witnessed.

And the fairytale continues. THE most crucial aspect to the whole evolutionary farce is natural selection. This, as well, has never been documented, studied or witnessed. As far as I know there have never been controlled experiments on animals in an attempt to prove this concept. Once again, we are supposed to fall in love with the theory -- not any actual evidence.

So there's the backbone to evolutionary theory -- and there is no real science to it -- it's all nothing but a wild fairytale....a fairytale dreamed up by a select few who have no intention of actually studying the material world -- as real science requires. Instead, their only intention is to give atheists around the world a vessel to latch on to so they can justify their own existence without having to acknowledge the truth of the Almighty Creator.
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First of all, life is not scientific -- life is spirtual.

And this is where we leave the realm of science. Have fun in Never, Never Land.

So when evolutionists scoff at Creationists for not putting forth a scientific theory for life, I believe they are asking us to play a game, which includes defining life according to a flawed premise.

Then creationists need to stop calling their pursuit "science". If you don't like the rules, then don't play the game. This is no different than a soccer player complaining that the goalie gets to use his hands. When you claim to be "scientific" you have to play by the rules.

Instead it's long list of "what ifs," "probablys," "maybes," and "more-than-likelys." What they're attempting to sell the unsuspecting public is not to be found in nature -- it's found in their books.

All theories are models, and all are tentative. However, unlike creationism and theology, scientific theories are based on empirical data. If you don't like it, tough.

And their so-called evidence is NEVER visible. Never. For example, every creature on earth is said to have evolved from a common ancestor.

Do you have cousins? If yes, then you have just evidenced common ancestry. See how easy it is?

Thus there must, be thousands and thousands of common ancestors that link each creature to the next.

Nope, just one. Any two organisms on this planet share a single common ancestor.

And the fairytale continues. THE most crucial aspect to the whole evolutionary farce is natural selection. This, as well, has never been documented, studied or witnessed. As far as I know there have never been controlled experiments on animals in an attempt to prove this concept. Once again, we are supposed to fall in love with the theory -- not any actual evidence.

Natural selection and random mutation can be easily demonstrated in bacteria using the Luria-Delbruck fluctation assay. I even started a thread on it here.
 
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Nothing is more humorous than when an evolutionist pokes fun at creationists or IDists for not putting forth a scientific theory to explain life.
I agree. The twisting of words and meaning along with the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance that creationist/ID proponents will go to just to keep their fable alive is astounding.

First of all, life is not scientific -- life is spirtual.
Show us your e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e. Assertions without support convinces no one but the already convinced. Of which we're not, just so you know.

Contrary to what evolutionists say, what makes us human is not the shape of our jaw bone or the size of our heads.
Of course not. Those things help with the definition though.

Life is something that controls and manipulates the matter it occupies. Thus, those who claim to be able to describe life scientifically are kidding themselves because life is more than material -- it's metaphysical, which by defintion is in conflict with science. Science is the study of the material world.
Well, you got that last sentence right. You're scoring better than most of your posts, sport!:thumbsup:

So when evolutionists scoff at Creationists for not putting forth a scientific theory for life, I believe they are asking us to play a game, which includes defining life according to a flawed premise.
No. We want you to *gasp* present an actual theory. Preferably for creation, but if you can't manage that one then anything scientific from a creationist would be nice once in a while.

But what's truly laughable about all this is that the "science" evolutionists put forth is not science at all.
Since you don't seem to be using the actual definition of science, how about you define "science" as you're using it. Oh, and try not to define all meaning out of it so that it includes everything. Maybe then we'll understand the claim you're making here.

Like I said, "science" is (or should be) the study of the material world.
Uh. It is. Hence it being called natural philosophy for quite some time before the term "science" took over.

But what the world's evolutionists have forced down our kids' throats is not science. Instead it's long list of "what ifs," "probablys," "maybes," and "more-than-likelys."
Examples, please, for the love of your God, examples! Don't just toss things like this out there.:doh:

What they're attempting to sell the unsuspecting public is not to be found in nature -- it's found in their books.
Sounds suspiciously like the IDists...

And their so-called evidence is NEVER visible. Never.
Sure it is. Museums would be one place to see some evidence. A textbook would be a much better one. Even the science section of your local bookstore should have some popular science books that explain thing without all the technical detail. Check one of them out.

For example, every creature on earth is said to have evolved from a common ancestor. Thus there must, be thousands and thousands of common ancestors that link each creature to the next.
Sure.

For example, lions and tigers must have a common ancestor....man and ape must have a common ancestor...squirrels and skunks must have a common ancestor...bats and whales must have a common ancestor.
Correct, yet they all share a single common ancestor. Way, way, waaay back.

Of course none of these common ancestors have been found -- or will ever be found -- but we're just supposed to take their word for it because they know more than us.
They know more than you. That's simply because you refuse to learn anything though. You could remedy that easily if you'd like.

If you're actually interested in common ancestors we've found, which I doubt you are, read this: TalkOrigins: Chronological order of intermediates

But the reality is, this is not science -- this is nothing but brain-rotting blind faith in an intellectually bankrupt theory.
Saying so does not make it true. Show us why this is so. Just like in school, you'll have to show your work to be taken seriously.

But the fairytale doesn't stop there. Evolutionists have made a living the past 75 years on the Big Joke that is the unseen beneficial random mutation. I honestly believe this is the most ridiculous aspect of the whole theory.
Arguments made from personal incredulity are logical unsound. You should avoid relying on it so often.

The notion that a once-in-a-multi-million chance mutation can be beneficial and spread throughout a population via sexual reproduction is truly outrageous -- especially when you consider that populations are often separated by hundreds or thousands of miles and mutations are 99% destructive and/or deadly.
What reputable source states that mutations are "99% destructive and/or deadly"?

Not only that, but a grand total of only 4,000 hominid bones have been dug up...(this includes humans, australopithecus, Neanderthals, Homo erectus, etc
Where did you get this number? I have a feeling it's a bit shy of the actual number.

Thus, there simply is not enough of a population for the likely occurrence of beneficial random mutations.
Wow. That's a non-sequiter. Even if we do actually only have 4,000 bones that says nothing at all about the population size of the various species the bones belonged to.:doh:

Of course cumulative selection of thousands of such mutations has never -- and will never -- be witnessed.
Mutations, and the selection of them, has been witnessed. At least to my knowledge. Ask JohnR7. He was harping on about fruit flies the other day. Likely that was a witnessed mutation of some sort or other.

And the fairytale continues. THE most crucial aspect to the whole evolutionary farce is natural selection. This, as well, has never been documented, studied or witnessed.
Didn't we just go over this a few weeks ago with you?

As far as I know there have never been controlled experiments on animals in an attempt to prove this concept. Once again, we are supposed to fall in love with the theory -- not any actual evidence.
You don't actually read any evidence we provide, do you? Come on, you can admit it.

So there's the backbone to evolutionary theory -- and there is no real science to it -- it's all nothing but a wild fairytale....a fairytale dreamed up by a select few who have no intention of actually studying the material world -- as real science requires. Instead, their only intention is to give atheists around the world a vessel to latch on to so they can justify their own existence without having to acknowledge the truth of the Almighty Creator.
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You just type to seem important, don't you?

Your entire post is one large assertion. Individual parts of the whole post are variations of logical fallacies, lies and outright refusal to understand what you've been shown countless times. I can only assume you get some sort of bizarre satisfaction out of your little games, but I can't for the life of me figure out how.:scratch:
 
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Originally Posted by JohnR7
If you want short, read my posts. I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie :)

You sometimes have to wonder whether John shoots himself in the foot on purpose.

Could anybody write something so ridiculous unknowingly.

As for the Supersport post, didn't bother reading it, from the very title of the thread you know it is going to be rubbish.

Hansel and Gretel is a Fairy Story, Evolution is an extremely well evidenced scientific theory, if he can't tell the difference then what is the point wasting time on him, especially as he has already said my signature, see below.
 
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Nothing is more humorous than when an evolutionist pokes fun at creationists or IDists for not putting forth a scientific theory to explain life.

First of all, life is not scientific -- life is spirtual. Contrary to what evolutionists say, what makes us human is not the shape of our jaw bone or the size of our heads. Life is something that controls and manipulates the matter it occupies. Thus, those who claim to be able to describe life scientifically are kidding themselves because life is more than material -- it's metaphysical, which by defintion is in conflict with science. Science is the study of the material world.

So when evolutionists scoff at Creationists for not putting forth a scientific theory for life, I believe they are asking us to play a game, which includes defining life according to a flawed premise.

But what's truly laughable about all this is that the "science" evolutionists put forth is not science at all. Like I said, "science" is (or should be) the study of the material world. But what the world's evolutionists have forced down our kids' throats is not science. Instead it's long list of "what ifs," "probablys," "maybes," and "more-than-likelys." What they're attempting to sell the unsuspecting public is not to be found in nature -- it's found in their books.

And their so-called evidence is NEVER visible. Never. For example, every creature on earth is said to have evolved from a common ancestor. Thus there must, be thousands and thousands of common ancestors that link each creature to the next. For example, lions and tigers must have a common ancestor....man and ape must have a common ancestor...squirrels and skunks must have a common ancestor...bats and whales must have a common ancestor. Of course none of these common ancestors have been found -- or will ever be found -- but we're just supposed to take their word for it because they know more than us. But the reality is, this is not science -- this is nothing but brain-rotting blind faith in an intellectually bankrupt theory.

But the fairytale doesn't stop there. Evolutionists have made a living the past 75 years on the Big Joke that is the unseen beneficial random mutation. I honestly believe this is the most ridiculous aspect of the whole theory. The notion that a once-in-a-multi-million chance mutation can be beneficial and spread throughout a population via sexual reproduction is truly outrageous -- especially when you consider that populations are often separated by hundreds or thousands of miles and mutations are 99% destructive and/or deadly. Not only that, but a grand total of only 4,000 hominid bones have been dug up...(this includes humans, australopithecus, Neanderthals, Homo erectus, etc) Thus, there simply is not enough of a population for the likely occurrence of beneficial random mutations. Of course cumulative selection of thousands of such mutations has never -- and will never -- be witnessed.

And the fairytale continues. THE most crucial aspect to the whole evolutionary farce is natural selection. This, as well, has never been documented, studied or witnessed. As far as I know there have never been controlled experiments on animals in an attempt to prove this concept. Once again, we are supposed to fall in love with the theory -- not any actual evidence.

So there's the backbone to evolutionary theory -- and there is no real science to it -- it's all nothing but a wild fairytale....a fairytale dreamed up by a select few who have no intention of actually studying the material world -- as real science requires. Instead, their only intention is to give atheists around the world a vessel to latch on to so they can justify their own existence without having to acknowledge the truth of the Almighty Creator.
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Absent a testable, predictive model for your blatherings, you've got nothing buy a pile of useless assertions. Try doing a little science.
 
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Uh... that's four words, John.:doh:

No, no, see the Bible talks about the Trinity so therefore all numbers are actually three.

The ungodly math of the atheists is from hell . Math is a lie. Only Creation Math is valid math
 
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If you want short, read my posts. I can sum it all up in three words: Evolution is a lie :)
Yes, I know what you say. Evolution is a lie and science is a religion. On the other hand, medicine works and faith healing doesn't. If it is a religion, it works better than the rest of them.
 
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In order to do that you would have to keep science out of the school. All the scientific evidence points toward Creationism.
Creationism is not a scientific model, it produces no testable deductions. As such, there is no way to measure the evidence against it. It does not belong in science class rooms.

Additionally, it is a theistic philosophy, specific to one subset of christianity. As such, it goes up against the establishment clause.
 
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No, no, see the Bible talks about the Trinity so therefore all numbers are actually three.
Well, the Bible does apparently claim that Pi is 3...

The ungodly math of the atheists is from hell . Math is a lie. Only Creation Math is valid math
I see! I suppose if you're going to go making up your own "science" you might as well make up the math that proves it too.;)
 
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