Evolution vs Creation

[Kylie]

If it's to discuss science, you're barking up the wrong tree.

You can get all the science you want off of Google.

If it's to try and persuade me to abandon my beliefs in favor of science, you're going to get a reality check in how faith works.

Well why do you come in here? To have a meaningful discussion? Apparently not, since you;ve admitted that you have no interest in changing your viewpoint, even if presented with compelling evidence. The only other thing I can think of is you are either a troll or a poe. Are you one of those things, AV?

 

[Kylie]

Here you go, newbie.

All you had to do is ask.

QV 16, ff

And you didn't do a very good job of it, did you.

 

[Kylie]

On the contrary.

Name me one button I can't push, or one lever I can't pull because I'm a creationist working side-by-side with an evolutionist.

How about this...

Explain to me why I should keep taking the rest of my course of antibiotics even when the symptoms of the infection have passed without using a scientific explanation.

 

[AV1611VET]

How about this...

Explain to me why I should keep taking the rest of my course of antibiotics even when the symptoms of the infection have passed without using a scientific explanation.

Because if you let the cooties come back, they'll come back tougher than when they left.

 

[Kylie]

Because if you let the cooties come back, they'll come back tougher than when they left.

Why is that?

 

[HitchSlap]

Why is that?

"It's Evolution Baby!"

 

[AV1611VET]

Why is that?

Adaptation.

Is this an example of environmental pressure that causes microevolution?

 

[mzungu]

Adaptation.

By Jove I think he's got it! You just gave the definition of EVOLUTION!!!!!!

 

[AV1611VET]

By Jove I think he's got it! You just gave the definition of EVOLUTION!!!!!!

I was expecting her to come back with something like:

"And what is adaptation over millions of generations?"

To which I was going to reply:

Missing links?

 

[mzungu]

I was expecting her to come back with something like:

"And what is adaptation over millions of generations?"

To which I was going to reply:

Missing links?

You have the first part correct. However, you failed the exam. In ToE there is no such thing as a missing link. Do your homework and come back with the correct answer!

 

[AV1611VET]

In ToE there is no such thing as a missing link.

Yes, I know.

ToE is a game of connect-the-dots.

Do your homework and come back with the correct answer!

Very well ... QV please:

Can we take every single piece of physical biological evidence for evolution that is currently on display everywhere, and line them up side-by-side in a way that can account for every single year in history since abiogenesis?

If so, if I just arbitrarily asked what piece of physical biological evidence represents 494,012 B.C., it could be produced?

Or are there more years in existence since abiogenesis, than there are pieces of physical biological evidence representing each individual year?

In other words: missing links that make daisy-chaining impossible?

 

[mzungu]

Yes, I know.

ToE is a game of connect-the-dots.

Very well ... QV please: Can we take every single piece of physical biological evidence for evolution that is currently on display everywhere, and line them up side-by-side in a way that can account for every single year in history since abiogenesis?

If so, if I just arbitrarily asked what piece of physical biological evidence represents 494,012 B.C., it could be produced?

Or are there more years in existence since abiogenesis, than there are pieces of physical biological evidence representing each individual year?

In other words: missing links that make daisy-chaining impossible?

There is no need to do that. We do not need a photo of every second of one's life in order to conclude that the photo of you as a babe and one of you as a toddler and one as a teenager and one of today are not of the same person when we have the forensic evidence at hand.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no need to do that. We do not need a photo of every second of one's life in order to conclude that the photo of you as a babe and one of you as a toddler and one as a teenager and one of today are not of the same person when we have the forensic evidence at hand.

That's not the same as in my challenge though.

My challenge is cyanobacteria-to-man.

In addition, it is to what's on file ... as in physically existing.

And you can't account for every year, let alone every second.

 

[mzungu]

That's not the same as in my challenge though.

My challenge is cyanobacteria-to-man.

In addition, it is to what's on file ... as in physically existing.

And you can't account for every year, let alone every second.

Like I said; we do not need that as we use forensics! If you only had knowledge of ToE you would not make such claims. Science can deduce without needing all the variables. ToE makes predictions that can be verified.

You are dismissing ToE without even knowing the fundamentals of the theory. It is like one dismissing Christian dogma without having any knowledge of it. In the Bible it is called bearing false witness; not that I am accusing you, but if only you took the time to educate yourself on the subject.

 

[AV1611VET]

Like I said; we do not need that as we use forensics!

That's an awful lot of forensics.

 

[mzungu]

That's an awful lot of forensics.

Indeed, that is how science works; lots of hard work. The whole world has millions of scientists who are working very hard and the fruits of their endeavours can be seen in the medical world, agriculture, biology in general, animal husbandry, wildlife conservation, marine biology, aquaculture, etc.

ToE is here to stay and no amount of fire and brimstone can change that unless we find a crocoduck

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed, that is how science works; lots of hard work.

And yet they can't daisy-chain evolution ... not even on paper, let alone with physical [fossil] evidence.

ToE is here to stay...

As I predict.

 

[mzungu]

And yet they can't daisy-chain evolution ... not even on paper, let alone with physical [fossil] evidence.

As I predict.

So sayeth the man who has no knowledge of the subject at hand. Go home do your homework and come prepared for your exam. Like they used to tell us in school: "Ignorance is no excuse".

 

[Kylie]

Adaptation.

Care to go into a bit more detail?

And yes, the weed spray does act as a selective pressure which would lead to the evolution of spray resistance among the weeds. Do you know why this is, AV1611VET?

 

[Kylie]

And yet they can't daisy-chain evolution ... not even on paper, let alone with physical [fossil] evidence.

Can't do it with the life of Jesus either. Can you show me what Jesus was doing when he was 25?