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Evolution vs Creation
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Read my daisy-chain challenge.
I'm not talking about a single individual here, I'm talking about a fossil record from abiogenesis to 2013.
If I die before 2014 comes, you could use my bones to fill in any slot from 1954 - 2013.
Say you put my bones in the slot marked "1960."
Now you need someone's (anyone's) bones for 1959, then another person for 1958 ... and go all the way back to abiogenesis in what? 3,500,000 BC?
And I contend it can't be done because not even time existed before 4004 BC.
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EternalDragon
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And this is where I stop debating! There is nothing more to say here.
We are all hopping mad, aye?
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EternalDragon
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Fate is a "predetermined course of events". But predetermined by whom?
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Speak for yourself.
My wife once asked me if I was going to mow the lawn, and I said, "Probably."
That got me a reality check.
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Speak for yourself.
My wife once asked me if I was going to mow the lawn, and I said, "Probably."
That got me a reality check.
Sounds like a situation better suited to a head shot than a body check.
< add animated gif of Gibbs and DiNozzo from NCIS here >
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Split Rock
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When did all these lost debates happen? I have never seen one...
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EternalDragon
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I've seen plenty of them and agree that terminology has changed to plug up all the problems with the theory.
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I've watched many creo. v. evo. debates and I don't remember any creos winning.
As for terminology, as the creo proponents are almost never scientists, they're the ones who seem to struggle with appropriate terminology. That is, they're unable to keep up when a real biologist uses the big words.
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And you guys are good at not admitting that evolution can't be daisy-chained.
Instead, we're expected to mentally link them together since, after all, the DNA is nearly identical, so we must be related.
As Kent Hovind so aptly put it:
You can't prove that any of these ancient fossils had an offspring.
I'm not going to play connect-the-dots when it comes to evolution.
No way, no how, not even.
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You might want to brush up on the Scopes trial.
You know ... the one that was started by the Antichrist Lover's Union?
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And in the same way you can't Daisy Chain the life of Jesus. You can't show me that the child Jesus was in any way connected to the adult Jesus. All you can do is play connect the dots.
And as for Kent Hovind...
Tell me there's no evidence of ancient creatures reproducing, Kent! Tell me!
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We're not dealing with the same thing here.
In a 33-year period, one Jesus = one Jesus.
In my challenge, in a 33-year period, I want 33 separate animals (or persons).
Any combination will do.
33 men; 25 butterflies and 8 cows; 10 cats, 10 snails, 2 dogs and 1 giraffe.
You get the picture.
(I hope.)
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Yes, we are dealing with the same thing. We have one thing, and later we have another thing, and nothing to show that the two are linked. The fact that you are talking about different fossils and I am talking about life events in no way changes the fact that there is not a continuous line of them. Got it?
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Interesting. I read somewhere that Jesus character in the bible might have been a composite of more than one individual.
"What one Jesus reconstruction leaves aside, the next one takes up and makes its cornerstone. Jesus simply wears too many hats in the Gospels exorcist, healer, king, prophet, sage, rabbi, demigod, and so on. The Jesus Christ of the New Testament is a composite figure (...) The historical Jesus (if there was one) might well have been a messianic king, or a progressive Pharisee, or a Galilean shaman, or a magus, or a Hellenistic sage. But he cannot very well have been all of them at the same time." (Price, Robert (2000) Deconstructing Jesus, pp. 15-16)
Do you play connect-the-dots with that?
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