Evolution Versus Devolution

[JoeyArnold]

Evolution Versus Devolution. Is our universe evolving or devolving? The second law of thermodynamics states that things are devolving, that things are getting worse, while evolving swears that things are getting better. In other words, evolution contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. Things clearly devolve. That is why we die, after all.

 

[Redac]

Yes.

 

[mpok1519]

Technically "devolution" isn't a real thing. It's just evolution.

Also, evolution is a biological concept rather than a cosmological one.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Evolution is a biological concept rather than a cosmological one.

Living creatures are biologically evolving?

 

[freezerman2000]

Technically "devolution" isn't a real thing. It's just evolution.

Also, evolution is a biological concept rather than a cosmological one.

I thought that any time something changes evolution is in progress..
As the earth changes through plate tectonics,and erosion,is it not evolving with landscapes constantly changing?
As our technology changes and improves,is it not evolving into something better and more powerful?
Society can even evolve..changing from lawless chaos to being a utopia.It can de-evolve,from being Utopian in nature to anarchy,but I don't believe that biological devolution is possible.

 

[AECellini]

Living creatures are biologically evolving?

yes?

 

[HitchSlap]

Is 78 degrees F more green than 80F?

 

[serge546]

Is 78 degrees F more green than 80F?

Only on Tuesdays.

 

[pgp_protector]

Only on Tuesdays.

Or when Green is square.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Evolution Versus Devolution. Is our universe evolving or devolving?

The former.

The second law of thermodynamics states that things are devolving,

No, it does not.

that things are getting worse,

No, it does not.

while evolving swears that things are getting better.

No, it does not.

In other words, evolution contradicts the second law of thermodynamics.

No, it does not.

Things clearly devolve.

No, they do not.

That is why we die, after all.

No, it is not.

Zero out of six. Sorry, thanks for playing, but better luck next time!

 

[elopez]

Evolution Versus Devolution. Is our universe evolving or devolving? The second law of thermodynamics states that things are devolving, that things are getting worse

The Second Law actually states no such thing. The Second Law states heat will not spontaneously flow from a cooler body to a more warmer one. It means that the measure of useful energy will not decrease in a closed system.

while evolving swears that things are getting better. In other words, evolution contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. Things clearly devolve. That is why we die, after all.

Evolution states no such thing. What really is going on here is you have no idea what you're speaking about, and that is clear from A) your misunderstanding of the Second Law and B) obviously your misunderstanding of evolution.

 

[elopez]

Technically "devolution" isn't a real thing. It's just evolution.

Also, evolution is a biological concept rather than a cosmological one.

Right, "devolution" isn't a scientific term. It ought to just remain in the fiction it was brought up in.

And well, there is cosmic evolution.

 

[Gracchus]

Evolution Versus Devolution. Is our universe evolving or devolving? The second law of thermodynamics states that things are devolving, that things are getting worse, while evolving swears that things are getting better. In other words, evolution contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. Things clearly devolve. That is why we die, after all.

No, Joey. If evolution violated the second law of thermodynamics, someone smarter and more educated than you are would have noticed.

For your information, the Second Law of Thermodynamics states that heat will not spontaneously flow from a cooler source to a warmer sink.

The Second Law objection to the theory of evolution is a P.R.A.T.T. (Point refuted a thousand times).

Read a science book once in a while, lest the people on this forum think you are intellectually challenged. You don't want to give a false impression.

 

[mpok1519]

I thought that any time something changes evolution is in progress..
As the earth changes through plate tectonics,and erosion,is it not evolving with landscapes constantly changing?
As our technology changes and improves,is it not evolving into something better and more powerful?
Society can even evolve..changing from lawless chaos to being a utopia.It can de-evolve,from being Utopian in nature to anarchy,but I don't believe that biological devolution is possible.

Sure, you can say the universe evolves; that's okay.

But, even if the universe moves toward a less ordered and more chaotic structure, it's still evolution. It's evolved toward chaos.

 

[mpok1519]

Right, "devolution" isn't a scientific term. It ought to just remain in the fiction it was brought up in.

And well, there is cosmic evolution.

Yeah I suppose. But the mechanics of evolution are not applicable to non biological concepts.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution Versus Devolution. Is our universe evolving or devolving? The second law of thermodynamics states that things are devolving, that things are getting worse, while evolving swears that things are getting better. In other words, evolution contradicts the second law of thermodynamics. Things clearly devolve. That is why we die, after all.

Of the two choices, I pick devolving.

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Yes, pockets of evolving occur, but in the long run, it amounts to polishing brass on a sinking ship; as devolution will eventually catch up.

(Of course, we Christians know that God will intervene long before that happens. )

 

[HitchSlap]

Of the two choices, I pick devolving.

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Yes, pockets of evolving occur, but in the long run, it amounts to polishing brass on a sinking ship; as devolution will eventually catch up.

(Of course, we Christians know that God will intervene long before that happens. )

"Until now," does that mean the groaning and travailing in pain has ceased?

 

[AV1611VET]

"Until now," does that mean the groaning and travailing in pain has ceased?

No.

 

[HitchSlap]

No.

So, we're still groaning and travailing?

 

[AV1611VET]

So, we're still groaning and travailing?

You tell me.

Is entropy still going on in the universe?