Relevant, and contradictory. Not only contradictory with science, but with the other chapter as well.
You are arguing semantics. If something has not been made, it does not exist.
Quote mining is when someone takes a quote by itself and ignores all the other lines around it. I have never done that. I have done the exact opposite - pointed out how the quotes around it contradict it.
Fully understood is the problem you seem to have.
And it contradicts the order given in Gen 1.
Your argument that "formed" means something different than "created" is not supported. You are simply claiming that they are different. A person reading these chapters would be unlikely to reach the same conclusion you have.
HA! I never said I was the first one. People have been pointing out this blunder for ages.
By pointing out a passage and then referring to other passages in the same chapter and the next chapter.
If you had bothered to actually read my post, you would have seen that I answered that question in the very next sentence. Are you deliberately ignoring me?
Then you are saying that God FORMED the animals in Gen 1:25, which is before he made Adam and Eve.
I think it's the claim, "This is really what happened" being used to get people to believe by assuring them that it is true. Without evidence, assurances are meaningless.
Are the other versions of the Bible imperfect?
Unfortunately, here is does not say that God formed them until AFTER he had made Adam.
Now, if the passage said, "And out of the ground the LORD God had previously formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air..." then I would grant you this point. But it doesn't say this.
There's nothing in the passage that indicates this is the correct interpretation.
Seems to me that you are insisting that this can be the only correct interpretation because otherwise you'd have to admit that the Bible is flawed.
There's nothing in the Bible to support your conclusion. Somebody reading Genesis 1 would not assume that God created the animals but then kept them unmade so he could bring them forth later. Indeed, Genesis 1 states very clearly that the Earth and the water BRING THEM FORTH, and that happens BEFORE God made Adam and Eve.
The way you phrased it was rather awkward. What you meant was "Chapter 2 suggests we have started the origin story for the garden of eden."
One does not usually speaking of entering a story.
Because there's nothing in there to suggest that God was starting over.
Yes.
I'm suggesting that the Bible was written by collecting many different stories, so it is natural that they will not all be consistent.
I'm not so blinded by religious belief that I have to decide on my conclusion before looking at the evidence.
You show me where I quote mined.
A perfectly consistent Bible would be a start. Also, a passage that clearly and unambiguously describes scientific knowledge that could not possibly be known by the people of the time - perhaps something about the construction of atoms. I remember reading something on here about the movement of the planets and how the sun shines because of nuclear fusion. If the Bible spoke of that, I would find it pretty convincing.
Because, as I have said already, reading the Bible does not support this idea.
You make a big deal about Genesis 1:25 to suipport your claim that God created the animals from the earth but they remained unmade until they were brought before Adam. However, you seem to have completely missed Genesis 1:24 which states very clearly that the Earth was bringing forth every creature and God saw that it was good. Can't do that if the animals were still unmade!
Because you are so arrogant that you think that just because you like your beliefs that everyone will like them. And you are also so arrogant that you don't care about what I actually want for myself, but instead you are convinced that your way is the best way.
No, I don't want you to be an atheist. I just want you to be able to think critically and also understand that viewing the Bible as a flawed work of man doesn't mean you have to stop being a Christian.
Your atheist faith is built on thoughts and reasoning of men. My Christian faith is built on personal experience and a relationship with God.
He came to me and proved that he didn't exist in such a way as to be indisputable.
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Because I look at it in the context of Genesis 2:18 which clearly indicates that God formed the animals AFTER he had made man, and also in the context of Genesis 1:20 and Genesis 1:24 which clearly show that God brings forth the animals from the water and from the Earth - BRING FORTH, so they weren't kept in an unmade form as you claim - and then God doesn't create humans until Genesis 1:27.
Ha. You're the one who has been relying on a totally unsupported interpretation of the Bible for your position. I have constantly been providing passages to support my claim.
Are you kidding me?
In Genesis 1, it says God made the animals and then he made man and woman at the same time.
In Genesis 2, it says God made man, then he made the animals, and then he created woman.
Are you deliberately ignoring everything I say?
According to Genesis 1, yes.
Homework for you:
On what day did the whales and winged fowl appear swimming in the oceans and flying in the skies?
What?
