Evolution Question

[AV1611VET]

I'll assume you cant answer that question then.

Thank you --- that should simplify this thread a lot.

Guess it's one of those contradictions in your bible you haven't explained away yet.

I have over 560,000 posts --- do you still want to stick to that story?

The cake is a lie.

Of course it is.

 

[atomweaver]

And why on earth would Jesus be talking about mtEve --- He is talking about the first two human beings ever.

Bookmarked. Here you offer Conclusive Proof that Eve and mtEve are two different organisms, as no one ever said that mtEve was the first human woman ever.
We can now put your argument that "Eve = mtEve" in the trash bin beside your "my tax dollars funded SETI!" argument; both false.

 

[AV1611VET]

I dont see no cake in that, just some meaningless words.

Keep looking --- don't run off.

 

[AV1611VET]

Q number one is silly and meaningless

Of course --- how silly of me to assume you guys would know the gender of who came first --- (like we do).

Q number two...did you hear him say those things?

No --- He documented it though, then preserved the Documentation for our edification and understanding.

 

[atomweaver]

.No --- He documented it though, then preserved the Documentation for our edification and understanding.

Of course this makes sense; since you eat the eldest among you, you cannot rely upon an oral tradition like other cultures...

 

[AV1611VET]

Bookmarked. Here you offer Conclusive Proof that Eve and mtEve are two different organisms, as no one ever said that mtEve was the first human woman ever.
We can now put your argument that "Eve = mtEve" in the trash bin beside your "my tax dollars funded SETI!" argument; both false.

Let's simplify this even more:

• Eve = Eve
• mtEve = leads to pseudoscience

 

[Hespera]

Keep looking --- don't run off.

Great advice from the guy who wouldnt dream of following it, himself.

Keep looking in your empty box.........no thanks

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you guys have anymore questions?

I'm about to go now.

 

[Hespera]

Of course --- how silly of me to assume you guys would know the gender of who came first --- (like we do).No --- He documented it though, then preserved the Documentation for our edification and understanding.

You claim to know the answer to a silly and meaningless question. Ok.....

How long was it after Jesus' death that the first of his words was actually written down, btw?

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Thank you --- that should simplify this thread a lot.

Well I can be very accommodating.

I have over 560,000 posts

Epeen stroking might be expected of teenagers but for a 54 year old man it comes across as rather sad.

--- do you still want to stick to that story?

Sure, why not? You haven't given me a reason not to.

 

[Skaloop]

Who came first in atheism --- man or woman?

It doesn't say either way. It is silent on the issue.

And why on earth would Jesus be talking about mtEve --- He is talking about the first two human beings ever.

That's my point, but when talking about mtEve and mtAdam, scientists are not talking about Adam and Eve, or even necessarily the first two human beings ever, so why would you bring up what Jesus said about Adam and Eve?

 

[AV1611VET]

You claim to know the answer to a silly and meaningless question. Ok.....

How long was it after Jesus' death that the first of his words was actually written down, btw?

Hespera, are you interested in knowing why we don't believe in evolution --- or aren't you?

We could chase rabbits all day long, but we really should focus --- shouldn't we?

 

[AV1611VET]

It doesn't say either way. It is silent on the issue.

Then maybe it should start --- or --- as I suspect --- the Bible is an area that atheism can't go?

That's my point, but when talking about mtEve and mtAdam...

You mean y-Adam?

... scientists are not talking about Adam and Eve, or even necessarily the first two human beings ever...

Didn't I just say that a few posts back?

mt-Eve and y-Adam lived thousands of years apart.

Thus Jesus was talking about the first human beings ever --- viz., Adam and Eve --- made by God, Himself, with His own hands.

... so why would you bring up what Jesus said about Adam and Eve?

Because, unlike science, which is myopic, and can't see past a certain point --- we Christians have the Documentation that goes all the way back to the Beginning.

(You guys have It too --- you just don't know you do.)

 

[Hespera]

Hespera, are you interested in knowing why we don't believe in evolution --- or aren't you?

We could chase rabbits all day long, but we really should focus --- shouldn't we?

it seems simiple enough to me. You dont believe it because to you physical evidence counts for nothing compared to your interpretation of an old book.

If you don know or dont care to tell me i can look it up. But of course, you know the reason i asked about the gap in years goes to the credibility of the quotations and your interpretation of them.

as for the rabbits bit, you literalists should just say what you mean, coz your figures of speech are weird and nobody really knows that you mean, possibly including you.

 

[atomweaver]

Do you guys have anymore questions?

I'm about to go now.

Post 259 please...

 

[atomweaver]

Let's simplify this even more:

Making yourself more simple is not your problem, AVVET.

• Eve = Eve
• mtEve = leads to pseudoscience

Bookmarked. You offer definitive Proof that the first bullet is in no way related to the second (and the second bullet is wrong).

 

[AV1611VET]

it seems simiple enough to me. You dont believe it because to you physical evidence counts for nothing compared to your interpretation of an old book.

Physical evidence (i.e. mt-Eve) is not something I discount.

All it is is the "oldest" female found by science --- nothing more.

Beyond that, your evidence halts.

It's like finding another star farther out, using a telescope instead of binoculars --- but there are more stars farther out.

 

[Hespera]

-- viz., Adam and Eve --- made by God, Himself, with His own hands.Because, unlike science, which is myopic, and can't see past a certain point --- we Christians have the Documentation that goes all the way back to the Beginning.
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God has HANDS? This being that exists outside of time and space, has no physical existence, etc and so on.... has HANDS? Amazing.

As for who is myopic. THAT is funny, he who can only see the possibility of 6000 years thinks that science is.... myopic?

 

[AV1611VET]

Post 259 please...

Well I had a cheeseburger at McDonald's the other day.

Does that make me a cannibal for eating my distant cousin?

 

[AV1611VET]

You offer definitive Proof that the first bullet is in no way related to the second (and the second bullet is wrong).

mt-Eve --- as I understand her --- came after Eve, and is one of her descendents.

To use her as evidence of evolution --- when her ancestor was created --- then expecting us to follow along --- is what is contributing to the [artifical] length of this thread.