Evolution Promotes Brutality

[Heissonear]

Some have in modern times escalated science to become Lord. What we should bow to, submit to, and follow.

That is an end time pit many were to be faced with.

Science has its proper place. I use it in my occupation. It is my main funtion at work.

But the elements of my hand were not made by science. At best science can only explain and prosper the condition of the temporal hand.

The photons conveted into neurotransmittions in my brain seem ordinary but are enablement to view the Earth and events on Earth.

All of His way, not science as Lord.

The Fall of mankind through Adam and Eve brought about killing and brutality, a natural world left on its own to survive.

The trail of people who have followed science to Evolution is a mass, but has been a road that is based on faith, for the most important evidence has never been found.

Evolution promotes brutality among creatures. It is a foundational tenet to accept.

 

[Armoured]

Some have in modern times escalated science to become Lord. What we should bow to, submit to, and follow.

That is an end time pit many were to be faced with.

Science has its proper place. I use it in my occupation. It is my main funtion at work.

But the elements of my hand were not made by science. At best science can only explain and prosper the condition of the temporal hand.

The photons conveted into neurotransmittions in my brain seem ordinary but are enablement to view the Earth and events on Earth.

All of His way, not science as Lord.

The Fall of mankind through Adam and Eve brought about killing and brutality, a natural world left on its own to survive.

The trail of people who have followed science to Evolution is a mass, but has been a road that is based on faith, for the most important evidence has never been found.

Evolution promotes brutality among creatures. It is a foundational tenet to accept.

So, what? Everyone accepts creationism tomorrow and predators become vegan overnight?

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

So, what? Everyone accepts creationism tomorrow and predators become vegan overnight?

No his view looks more like a sort of dismal and pitiful plea against evolution... I really feel sorry for creationists, it's very difficult to take them seriously and I can't imagine that they feel all that comfortable being so incredibly marginalised by anyone with half a brain...

 

[The Barbarian]

One of the strengths of evolution, IMO, is not in what evolutionists find -- but in what they don't find.

Missing links.

Let's test that belief. Name any two major groups, said to be evolutionarily connected, and then let's see if a transitional exists. Which two would you like to try first?

The more faith they put in the missing links, the stronger their belief in evolution will be.

The fact that there are so many transitionals (what creationists call "missing links") is powerful evidence for evolution, but even more compelling is that there are none at all where they shouldn't be.

Tell us which two you'd like to test first.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Bad assumption. Get to know Him full of wonder and purpose in everything He does.

That was not what I was addressing here.

 

[Goonie]

Sorry to say, but your reply is humorous.

A bit apathetic to what transpires when a lion runs down a deer, and rips the deer apart. Of course no intension of harm, viciousness, brutality. Only in your eyes, mate. As the blood weeps from the flesh just moment before having photons from the atmosphere transfered by neurological transmissions into the brain for sight of the scenery the deer was surrounded by. And then there was a lion and the biological food chain that Evolution has set up. Evolution has built-in brutality of life forms, daily and hourly.

People who promote Evolution promote brutality in life developing over millions of years on Earth. And you do not think so?

That's nature, get over it. Are you by any chance a vegetarian?

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

What you are attempting to do is called "whitewash", color it over to make it look the way you paint it to look by words.

No-worky.

please don' place your terminology on my intent. It simple doesn't work beyond your nostrils.

Next time you are in Florida venture into to shallow water everglades teaming with fish to long legged birds and wade around. You will become part of the food chain, I'm afraid. And it will not look pretty.

You could also go to Alaska and walk one of the shoreline rivers. Something big with teeth and claws may want to shake hands with you.

Do you honestly think Evolution does not promote beastly behaviour, even vicious bitting and devouring of anothers body?

And you think God has used Evolution to develop life on Earth over geologic time?

What has this to do with what I stated. Could you please connect the dots. I said nothing about God in any of this so if you are here to defend your argument from the mental imagery you place on people who don't agree with you totally in your attempts to place labels on something you presume is evil, then that is an issue you need to deal with.

Last time I looked evolution as an answer to creation, was a theory, If I'm not mistaken and you are attempting to place the stark reality of Gods plan for the Eco-system on it is pretty evil in my book.
It's like blaming Marvel comics Wolverine on the pain in the artists hand after he draws him. Hating something isn't construct in defeating it. It just makes you look desperate when you stretch so far you nearly split into.

Dog eat dog is the way life in the animal kingdom has been far before Adam went to his grave.

 

[Goonie]

Actually I find the idea of adding God to the process adds complexity, rather than simplicity, the signpost could be the other way round, simple but right. No God is simpler than one God.

 

[durangodawood]

Do you have pets?

Good point.
Watching a pet cat toy with a dying mouse.
Yes, we'd call that "brutality" if a human did that.
Call it creation or call it evolution.
Still, there it is.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Good point.
Watching a pet cat toy with a dying mouse.
Yes, we'd call that "brutality" if a human did that.
Call it creation or call it evolution.
Still, there it is.

I'd call a shrink. People who please themselves with the agony of a dieing animal are quite disturbed. I know I'm using humoer here but the entire intent of the thread would be humorous as well, if it weren't so much of a stretch that It makes me as a Christin slap my forehead with my palm.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I am not sure about the number of years, BUT I do believe that animals have changed with their evientment in order to live and pass on the best genes.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Actually I find the idea of adding God to the process adds complexity, rather than simplicity, the signpost could be the other way round, simple but right. No God is simpler than one God.

I look at it this way. Adding God is adding the answer that science is still looking for the question to. Science has and always will be the search for answers and the more we learn the more we really understand just how little we do know. That brings up larger, more in-depth questions that will not be answered beyond theory until our technology advances enough for us to build the equipment to seek for them.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

I am not sure about the number of years, BUT I do believe that animals have changed with their evientment in order to live and pass on the best genes.

Which is apart of God's plans. He knew that the world would change and that which was on it would need to adapt. I think many people keep evolution in the same type conceptual box that they keep God in. Evolution also means progress and God is certainly all for that.

 

[Goonie]

I look at it this way. Adding God is adding the answer that science is still looking for the question to. Science has and always will be the search for answers and the more we learn the more we really understand just how little we do know and that brings up larger, more in-depth questions that will not be answered beyond theory until our technology advances enough for us to build the equipment to seek for them.

I always like the simple answer "I don't Know." So how did life originate? "I don't Know" Though a god is still of cause a possibility, but simplicity says probably not.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

There are many true Christians who have accepted that life on Earth evolved over millions of years.

In particular, lifeforms have been around for over 200 million years which have continuously lived by biting and devouring other lifeforms.

Has God allowed brutality to be the means for many lifeforms to exist for such a long period of time?

I don't think so. How about you?

Or, we can simply view most of the "biting and devouring of other lifeforms" as a mode of energy exchange, which is natural in an energetically fluid, rather than static, universe. This is just how the flow of energy works, until God perhaps 'tweeks' the system in the future.

2PhiloVoid

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

I always like the simple answer "I don't Know." So how did life originate? "I don't Know" Though a god is still of cause a possibility, but simplicity says probably not.

I find it pretty much a unnecessary expedition into arrogance to attempt to defend God in issues such as this. What a Christian works on is faith and all he truly has is the Bible and his mental imagery to use to do so. I think that since I know that God is up there and he hasn't yet shown himself, physically that there is a purpose behind it and God, being God would know the wisdom in remaining just where he is.
To purposely try to prove to others who don't share our faith is to go against God's wisdom and in fact be impatient with God's timeline.

I have, at times fallen into that trap, but mine is only speculation on a possible answer to incidents that I was not there to observe. I know that and work along those lines.

 

[Hoghead1]

There are many transitional fossils, Barbarian. Check out the literature.

 

[Hoghead1]

True, evolution is a theory, AHH. However, exactly what dos that mean? A theory is simply two or more statements or assumptions connected together, period. I tis still called a theory, whether it checks out or not. What you seem to mean is just that evolution is a mere guess, no real evidence. That isn't all the case. The reason why mainstream science adepts evolution is that it is one of the best-documented of all scientific theories.

 

[Hoghead1]

You criticize evolution for promoting brutality, Heissonear. However, the same thing can be said about promoting Christianity, as it has been one of the most brutal of all religions. No doubt about that. In fact, our founding fathers, especially Jefferson, Adams, and Madison, had grave doubts how appropriate Christianity really is in a free society. They were quite outspoken on that fact that all it had promotes was ignorance, tyranny, oppression, fear, bloodshed, etc. That, for example, Hitler. He said more than once that he was only doing the Lords' work. And that's no surprise. Martin Luther wrote a work entitled "The Jews and Their Lies," ion which he recommended a policy almost identical to what Hitler carried out. Remember, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

I think you left out the purpose the One who died on the Cross has us here for.

There is nothing and nobody like Him on High, and we have opportunity to have an everlasting relationship with Him.

Abraham counted this world nothing for the world to come. Modernism has so many today they have lost their balance of existence and the value of Him.

Maybe, but the cancer's still going to get you. Or the Midtown Bus. Or the open manhole cover.

Pretty brutal.