Evolution or descent with modification?

[Aman777]

Where are these "heavens?"

The first Heaven, Adam's world, was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pe 3:6
The second Heaven, or today's Universe, will be burned. 2Pe 3:10
The third Heaven 2Co 12:2 is where Christians will live after our world is burned. Rev 21:1

 

[Ophiolite]

Amen, but most evolutionists don't realize how trapped they really are. God springs His trap at the last moment AFTER they think they have escaped Hell. Isaiah 24:19

Yet we all have a foretaste of it when trapped into reading your posts.

 

[Aman777]

Yet we all have a foretaste of it when trapped into reading your posts.

My posts have nothing to do with God's Snare which catches those who spew their venom upon our innocent children and increases their punishment. Mar 9:42

 

[TLK Valentine]

The first Heaven, Adam's world, was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pe 3:6
The second Heaven, or today's Universe, will be burned. 2Pe 3:10
The third Heaven 2Co 12:2 is where Christians will live after our world is burned. Rev 21:1

And what happens after heaven #3 is destroyed?

 

[Aman777]

And what happens after heaven #3 is destroyed?

The third Heaven is Eternity where everything is forever since God knows the secret of immortality. Do you? Want to know?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

The third Heaven is Eternity where everything is forever since God knows the secret of immortality. Do you? Want to know?

The secret of immortality is good record keeping.

 

[Aman777]

The secret of immortality is good record keeping.

False. Not sinning is the secret of immortality.

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

False. Not sinning is the secret of immortality.

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

False

 

[Speedwell]

False. Not sinning is the secret of immortality.

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I thought we were immortal regardless, the question being where we spent eternity.

 

[Aman777]

I thought we were immortal regardless, the question being where we spent eternity.

Only those who offend little children by falsely teaching them that God is a myth. Mar 9:42 God is a merciful God and saves this terrible punishment for those who lie to His children.

Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The third Heaven is Eternity where everything is forever since God knows the secret of immortality. Do you? Want to know?

He didn't share that secret with the first two heavens... is the third time the charm?

 

[TLK Valentine]

False. Not sinning is the secret of immortality.

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Given that none of us are sinless, we're all hosed.

 

[Aman777]

Given that none of us are sinless, we're all hosed.

Amen. All those who are Judged are found guilty of not being perfect even as God is perfect. The only way to be perfect is to be "in Christ". It's why He had to die because He knew that we couldn't be perfect without Him, Spiritually. Amen?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Amen. All those who are Judged are found guilty of not being perfect even as God is perfect. The only way to be perfect is to be "in Christ". It's why He had to die because He knew that we couldn't be perfect without Him, Spiritually. Amen?

Do you consider yourself perfect?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Meh

 

[SelfSim]

Amen. All those who are Judged are found guilty of not being perfect even as God is perfect. The only way to be perfect is to be "in Christ". It's why He had to die because He knew that we couldn't be perfect without Him, Spiritually. Amen?

Portrays a very draconian outlook.
Reminiscent of summary justice at Drumhead court martials(?)
I thought modern societies had moved on from such ancient standards?
Repeating historical misjustices only demonstrates an inability to learn from past mistakes(?)

 

[Aman777]

Portrays a very draconian outlook.
Reminiscent of summary justice at Drumhead court martials(?)
I thought modern societies had moved on from such ancient standards?
Repeating historical misjustices only demonstrates an inability to learn from past mistakes(?)

It's not draconian to me. I can barely wait for it to happen. Have you lost all hope? I know how you feel. The Lord has a way of plowing the ground before some turn to Him. Good luck.

 

[Aman777]

Do you consider yourself perfect?

Amen. I'm perfect in Christ. Apart from Him, I am nothing. With Him, I am immortal.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Amen. I'm perfect in Christ. Apart from Him, I am nothing. With Him, I am immortal.

sounds like all that spiel about "judgement" and being guilty or not guilty is a sham... it's a kangaroo court from the get-go; the only way to get off is to be buddies with the judge's son.

 

[Aman777]

sounds like all that spiel about "judgement" and being guilty or not guilty is a sham... it's a kangaroo court from the get-go; the only way to get off is to be buddies with the judge's son.

The judgment is real but God knows that only the perfect (those in Christ Spiritually) can go beyond the fiery eternal death which awaits those who reject His Truth. Do you know of another way to live forever in Paradise?