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If Hitchens said that he was mistaken. Life may have appeared as early as 3.8 billion years ago, but there is no evidence that it was here that early. But this sort of mistake is not serious. Biology and geology were not Hitchens' areas of expertise.We were told by Christopher Hitchens that life had been around for 4.5 billion years.
You have that wrong, fundies do not prefer what God says they prefer what people wrote who said it came from God, fundies don't believe God they believe people.
Who told people about God? people, who told people what God said? people, who do you believe? people, is there a God? who knows? all we have is the words of people who tell us there are Gods, if you're happy to believe people then go for it, I'm not.
It goes even deeper than that because people of one faith do not believe people of other faiths which means people are only prepared to believe the people they want to believe.
If Hitchens said that he was mistaken. Life may have appeared as early as 3.8 billion years ago, but there is no evidence that it was here that early. But this sort of mistake is not serious. Biology and geology were not Hitchens' areas of expertise.
Some have a faith-based belief in a willy-nilly creation with the human life form being just another product of mass confusion (Darwinists) and some believe that creation is purposeful and humans are the highest form of life created by God (Theists).
One cannot accurately say that 'Christians believe in evolution' without pointing out the kind of evolution being embraced, theistic or non-theistic, macro or micro. There are huge differences in implications in the various views.
You can say that all you like. Doesn't make it true.
And you are mistaken as I have heard several atheists say that life has been around 4.5 billion years.
Sorry, at best you misunderstood them. Seriously, if this was true you could support it with links. Give me a link that shows anyone of any authority making this claim. If you can't you are just spewing nonsense.And you are mistaken as I have heard several atheists say that life has been around 4.5 billion years.
Oh hey! You're back! Yeah, you didn't hear anybody say that. You weren't able to show that any source said that before and you won't be able to do so now! Welcome to the indefensible position of a fundie!And you are mistaken as I have heard several atheists say that life has been around 4.5 billion years.
Yes, but that includes the concept you cannot accept -MACRO-. You even skipped responding to that part of my post.
Your creationist beliefs. And your refusal to accept that christians accept macro evolution.
Didn't answer. Hmm. Interesting. It's just that some people who take Genesis literally, believe in creationism and geocentricity. I was wondering just where you draw the line on a literal interpretation of Genesis.
You say 3,700,000,000. Someone else says 3,800,000,000. You silly atheists. The answer is 6,000!You probably misunderstood what he said. It's unknown exactly when life arose, but the earliest evidence we can find of it about 3.7 billion .
All macro evolution isn't equal, thus the faith-based theistic view as contrasted with the faith-based Darwinist view.
Macro has been the issue with you. See above.Christians do not accept Godless Darwinist evolution. Macro isn't the issue.
ecco said:Didn't answer. Hmm. Interesting. It's just that some people who take Genesis literally, believe in creationism and geocentricity. I was wondering just where you draw the line on a literal interpretation of Genesis.
It really does have everything to do with evolution. People, like yourself, who are creationists disbelieve evolution because you take a literal reading of Genesis. Some people who take a literal reading of Genesis also still believe in Geocentricity. I was just wondering how literally you read Genesis.This is an evolution forum. What does geocentricity have anything to do with the various views of evolution?
Wow! Progress! You finally admitted some christians believe in macro evolution. You are well on your way to the 21st Century.
Next, you will have to admit that the christians who believe in evolution obviously do not take a literal reading of Genesis. However, you do take Genesis literally. How is it that your views of scripture are so different from theirs?
Macro has been the issue with you. See above.
It really does have everything to do with evolution. People, like yourself, who are creationists disbelieve evolution because you take a literal reading of Genesis. Some people who take a literal reading of Genesis also still believe in Geocentricity. I was just wondering how literally you read Genesis.
You still haven't answered. Is this another view you are embarrassed by?
You can say that all you like. Doesn't make it true.
Oh hey! You're back! Yeah, you didn't hear anybody say that. You weren't able to show that any source said that before and you won't be able to do so now! Welcome to the indefensible position of a fundie!
No of course I didn't. if an atheist says so then it must be right. After all, atheists are never wrong are they.
Apologies moderator for the sarcasm but such a childish comment deserves no better.
I am waiting for the fundie atheists who said most christians believe in evolution to show his source for such a wild and preposterous claim. Welcome to the indefensible position of a fundie atheist!!
No of course I didn't. if an atheist says so then it must be right. After all, atheists are never wrong are they.
Apologies moderator for the sarcasm but such a childish comment deserves no better.
I am waiting for the fundie atheists who said most christians believe in evolution to show his source for such a wild and preposterous claim. Welcome to the indefensible position of a fundie atheist!!
Sorry, at best you misunderstood them. Seriously, if this was true you could support it with links. Give me a link that shows anyone of any authority making this claim. If you can't you are just spewing nonsense.
That didn't take long did it.
You probably misunderstood what he said.
The EARTH is about 4.54 billion years old, but no one ever said that life's been here since the beginning. It's unknown exactly when life arose, but the earliest evidence we can find of it about 3.7 billio .
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