Evolution is mathematically impossible

[OldWiseGuy]

That's nice. If only the holy spirit would give consistent morality it might be useful.

It does but only to those it is speaking to.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It's wise to be particularly wary of intuitions about topics in which you have no expertise - and to treat intuitions about topics in which you have expertise as informed guesses.

I have no expertise in Limnology either, but I know how to clean up a foul smelling, weedy lake (the experts around here don't seem to know how). In fact I excel in several areas that I have no expertise in.

 

[Belk]

It does but only to those it is speaking to.

So I hear claimed by people with diametrically opposing views. Again this proves the point. If the book is not definitive it is useless.

 

[pitabread]

It's too complicated to understand.

Not if you take the time to learn.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not if you take the time to learn.

If a book doesn't grab me in the first few pages I stop reading it.

 

[Shemjaza]

There has to be a point when declarations of fact combined with open, wilful ignorance crosses over into dishonesty.

 

[bhsmte]

If a book doesn't grab me in the first few pages I stop reading it.

That would explain a lot.

 

[pitabread]

If a book doesn't grab me in the first few pages I stop reading it.

That's a link to a course, not a book.

 

[variant]

There has to be a point when declarations of fact combined with open, wilful ignorance crosses over into dishonesty.

It doesn't cross over into, but begins with dishonesty.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That's a link to a course, not a book.

It didn't grab me.

 

[Queller]

My intuition regarding evolution is an informed guess.

My guy feeling is that your intuition is uninformed when it comes to evolution.

 

[Queller]

It's too complicated to understand.

So you admit you don't understand it but you can declare it wrong?

 

[Queller]

Man's life span isn't long enough to fully understand evolution, therefore much of it has to be taken on faith.

Ridiculous.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So you admit you don't understand it but you can declare it wrong?

I said that imo it is wrong, and, that I don't believe it. If you have proven to your satisfaction that it's right more power to you. Who am I to tell someone that what they believe is wrong. Closely held beliefs are hard to pry away from people.

 

[Queller]

I said that imo it is wrong, and, that I don't believe it. If you have proven to your satisfaction that it's right more power to you.

How can you have the opinion that evolution is wrong if you don't understand evolution?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ridiculous.

Who do you know that has researched, and proven, everything about evolution? That's a lot of material.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

How can you have the opinion that evolution is wrong if you don't understand evolution?

It's a bridge too far for my mind. I can't get there from here. You tell me that in order to understand evolution I must disbelieve design, which I see everywhere. It's like saying in order to see what you see I must poke my eyes out. You've created an impossible conundrum.

 

[Queller]

It's a bridge too far for my mind. I can't get there from here. You tell me that in order to believe evolution I must disbelieve design. How is that possible when I see design? You've created a conundrum.

You see design because you want to see design not because it's actually there. My concept of God is not one where He always has to tinker with everything to get it working (and doing a bad job of it).

 

[Queller]

Who do you know that has researched, and proven, everything about evolution? That's a lot of material.

You don't have to do that to fully understand evolution. Just like you don't have to be an automotive engineer to fully understand the workings of an internal combustion engine.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You don't have to do that to fully understand evolution. Just like you don't have to be an automotive engineer to fully understand the workings of an internal combustion engine.

Tell that to those here who criticize my lack of "expertise".

We both view an eyeball. You see evolution, I see design. There's no point is going any further...east is east and west is west.