Evolution is mathematically impossible

[xianghua]

In other words, circular logic. What you are saying is that we know the wings of a bird or a bat are designed because we know that all wings are designed. But where is you evidence? Where, on a bird or a bat's wing will you find rivets, tool marks or other evidence of manufacture?

so we cant conclude design by looking at this structure?:

(image from Alive stone word in the sand - Buy this stock photo and explore similar images at Adobe Stock)

 

[tas8831]

because any wing we know of is the product of design.

Just like we know any robot is made.

Self pwn.

 

[tas8831]

The heart has a mind of it's own, autonomically speaking.

Yes, and it is in the CNS. But it cannot produce vocalizations.

 

[tas8831]

The heart is more complicated than that according to recent scientific findings. Many such articles are entitled, "The heart has a mind of it's own." You should check into this. Interesting stuff.

You mean the one about pacemakers? That is the only one I found with that title (and it wasn't exact).

 

[tas8831]

The gist of my observation is that in a time of increasing co2 in the atmosphere, which is believed to contribute to global warming/climate change, that massive amounts of fallen timber would be allow to decompose above the ground, thus adding all or most of it's carbon to the atmosphere, is completely irrational. Whereas if it was utilized as lumber, firewood, or simply buried (as is done in some places) it's carbon would be safely sequestered.

So you mean to tell us that despite your claims to a high IQ and a background in engineering f some sort that a buried or burned tree releases no carbon into the atmosphere, but a decaying one on the ground does?


Cool - so can you tell us all what burns in wood? And what does it produce?

Hmmm...

You're not smart, you're Creationist-Smart!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So you mean to tell us that despite your claims to a high IQ and a background in engineering f some sort that a buried or burned tree releases no carbon into the atmosphere, but a decaying one on the ground does?


Cool - so can you tell us all what burns in wood? And what does it produce?

Hmmm...

You're not smart, you're Creationist-Smart!

Did you think I meant piling it up and having a big campfire?

Burning wood for heating replaces fossils fuels like oil and gas which can then be left in the ground, and is therefore carbon neutral. Creationist smart, yup.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Why would I post something that wasn't accurate?

Improving measurements of CO2 production from dead wood - Agroforestry World

Note that this study isn't conducted to determine if rotting wood gives off co2 to the atmosphere, but how much.

When completely decomposed the co2 released by the dry carbon matter in wood is nearly four times it's weight. Thus one ton of dry woody matter yields three-plus tons of co2. Not insignificant considering the sheer mass of dead trees rotting above ground worldwide. Thus my surprise that the highly educated, environmentally aware folks that manage our Arboretum seem oblivious of this fact.

You do know there's a difference between naturally occurring Co2 and Greenhouse Gases, right?

 

[VirOptimus]

I'm actually surprised that you guys don't know this.

Wooooosh!

 

[Speedwell]

so we cant conclude design by looking at this structure?:

(image from Alive stone word in the sand - Buy this stock photo and explore similar images at Adobe Stock)

No. There is still a possibility, however small you think it, that those stones were arranged by natural forces.

 

[inquiring mind]

Yes. A population of dogs which reproduce with randomly selected variation and subject to the right selection pressure could have their forelimbs modified to become wings.

Lord help us.

 

[inquiring mind]

No. There is still a possibility, however small you think it, that those stones were arranged by natural forces.

Lord, please help us.

 

[Speedwell]

Lord, please help us.

Help us from what?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You do know there's a difference between naturally occurring Co2 and Greenhouse Gases, right?

Greenhouse Gases | Monitoring References | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Greenhouse Gases | Monitoring References | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Page is not loading for me.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Page is not loading for me.

First paragraph from the link.

What are greenhouse gases?
Many chemical compounds present in Earth's atmosphere behave as 'greenhouse gases'. These are gases which allow direct sunlight (relative shortwave energy) to reach the Earth's surface unimpeded. As the shortwave energy (that in the visible and ultraviolet portion of the spectra) heats the surface, longer-wave (infrared) energy (heat) is reradiated to the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases absorb this energy, thereby allowing less heat to escape back to space, and 'trapping' it in the lower atmosphere. Many greenhouse gases occur naturally in the atmosphere, such as carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, and nitrous oxide, while others are synthetic. Those that are man-made include the chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) and Perfluorocarbons (PFCs), as well as sulfur hexafluoride (SF6). Atmospheric concentrations of both the natural and man-made gases have been rising over the last few centuries due to the industrial revolution. As the global population has increased and our reliance on fossil fuels (such as coal, oil and natural gas) has been firmly solidified, so emissions of these gases have risen. While gases such as carbon dioxide occur naturally in the atmosphere, through our interference with the carbon cycle (through burning forest lands, or mining and burning coal), we artificially move carbon from solid storage to its gaseous state, thereby increasing atmospheric concentrations

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

First paragraph from the link.

What are greenhouse gases?
Many chemical compounds present in Earth's atmosphere behave as 'greenhouse gases'. These are gases which allow direct sunlight (relative shortwave energy) to reach the Earth's surface unimpeded. As the shortwave energy (that in the visible and ultraviolet portion of the spectra) heats the surface, longer-wave (infrared) energy (heat) is reradiated to the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases absorb this energy, thereby allowing less heat to escape back to space, and 'trapping' it in the lower atmosphere. Many greenhouse gases occur naturally in the atmosphere, such as carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, and nitrous oxide, while others are synthetic. Those that are man-made include the chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) and Perfluorocarbons (PFCs), as well as sulfur hexafluoride (SF6). Atmospheric concentrations of both the natural and man-made gases have been rising over the last few centuries due to the industrial revolution. As the global population has increased and our reliance on fossil fuels (such as coal, oil and natural gas) has been firmly solidified, so emissions of these gases have risen. While gases such as carbon dioxide occur naturally in the atmosphere, through our interference with the carbon cycle (through burning forest lands, or mining and burning coal), we artificially move carbon from solid storage to its gaseous state, thereby increasing atmospheric concentrations

Yeah, I did research it. I was kind of right, and also very kind of wrong too.
It's... it's a whole thing that, as I said, is better suited for another type of thread.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

so we cant conclude design by looking at this structure?:

(image from Alive stone word in the sand - Buy this stock photo and explore similar images at Adobe Stock)

Correct. Simply seeing the structure does not demonstrate design. There are a whole number of other indicators which we use to infer design.

Seriously, how many times do you need to have this explained to you? Are you a troll?

 

[Ophiolite]

Lord, please help us.

You don't think the hand of man is a natural force? (See, I make irrelvant posts also.)

 

[Astrophile]

When completely decomposed the co2 released by the dry carbon matter in wood is nearly four times it's weight. Thus one ton of dry woody matter yields three-plus tons of co2.

Obviously. Since the atomic weight of carbon is 12 and the atomic weight of oxygen is 16, the molecular weight of CO2 is 44, so the mass of CO2 produced by the oxidation of carbon in wood is nearly four times the mass of the original carbon.

Not insignificant considering the sheer mass of dead trees rotting above ground worldwide. Thus my surprise that the highly educated, environmentally aware folks that manage our Arboretum seem oblivious of this fact.

You are forgetting that all the carbon in the wood of a recently dead tree originally came from the CO2 in the atmosphere; therefore leaving the tree to rot, or burning the wood, merely returns the same amount of CO2 to the atmosphere that was extracted from it to make the tree in the first place.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yeah, I did research it. I was kind of right, and also very kind of wrong too.
It's... it's a whole thing that, as I said, is better suited for another type of thread.

Never let a good tangent go to waste.