Evolution is mathematically impossible

[Speedwell]

That is a huge admission.

No, it's just a commonplace fact. Did you believe that scientists are superior to other mortals? Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[bhsmte]

That is a huge admission.

No it isnt. It is simple reality.

 

[tas8831]

Are you saying that the proper use of all guns is to kill people?

I am saying that the typical gun-fetishist argument about how cars should be outlawed because someone ran over someone and killed them, or knives should be outlawed because someone stabbed someone (e.g., in their defense of guns being used in mass shootings) is absurd since neither cars nor knives were invented for and thus intended to be used in the killing of people.

I have guns and nowhere in the instructions does it say to kill people with them.

Wow, that is AMAZING!

I do however kill animals, and would defend myself with them if necessary.

Right - and I have guns and like to target shoot. Does that negate their history? NO.

I find America's gun obsession sickening - and I say this as a veteran and a gun owner. When a person's first reaction to news of a mass shooting is "them libruls' better not even try to take mah GUNZ!!!" then that person probably should not have them.

 

[tas8831]

They are probably more anti-regulation than anti-environmentalist. Anyway most Christians are hardly political ideologues.

Hard to tell if social media is a way to judge.

 

[tas8831]

No, it's just a commonplace fact. Did you believe that scientists are superior to other mortals? Sorry to disappoint you.

He was just projecting.

 

[tas8831]

Argue with my opinions then and leave me out of it.

Hard to do when you used your supposed high IQ and such as a means of establishing your 'authority.'

You opinions are nonsense when it comes to biology - I have demonstrated this repeatedly, yet you keep refusing to admit it and come back with a version of the usual creationist goal-post moving.

Shall I resurrect your aorta/gut vocalization nonsense?

 

[tas8831]

Problems right from the first two sentences:

...The existence of identical complex genetic code sequences

I am also curious as to what he means by "complex genetic code sequences"? The genetic code, as such, is not actually seen in genomes (i.e., you need more than just DNA to 'see' the genetic code).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I am saying that the typical gun-fetishist argument about how cars should be outlawed because someone ran over someone and killed them, or knives should be outlawed because someone stabbed someone (e.g., in their defense of guns being used in mass shootings) is absurd since neither cars nor knives were invented for and thus intended to be used in the killing of people.
Wow, that is AMAZING!

Right - and I have guns and like to target shoot. Does that negate their history? NO.

I find America's gun obsession sickening - and I say this as a veteran and a gun owner. When a person's first reaction to news of a mass shooting is "them libruls' better not even try to take mah GUNZ!!!" then that person probably should not have them.

America's freedom is closely tied to gun ownership.

 

[tas8831]

America's freedom is closely tied to gun ownership.

Not really.
And especially not now.
The whole 'Minuteman' myth is on par with the fantasy that the DoD fed us about Jessica Lynch.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Hard to do when you used your supposed high IQ and such as a means of establishing your 'authority.'

I didn't do this.

You opinions are nonsense when it comes to biology - I have demonstrated this repeatedly, yet you keep refusing to admit it and come back with a version of the usual creationist goal-post moving.

My opinions are...opinions. Deal with it without the ad homs.

Shall I resurrect your aorta/gut vocalization nonsense?

Still doing research (cat purring is interesting).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not really.
And especially not now.
The whole 'Minuteman' myth is on par with the fantasy that the DoD fed us about Jessica Lynch.

So...my deer rifle and .22 are actually a combat weapons?

Maybe if those peoples who are piling up at our southern border valued freedom as we do they would (have been) be armed as well. Look around the world. There are many people that could be free if they could fight back. We are uniquely free and I pray we remain that way.

 

[tas8831]

I didn't do this.

Oh?

"135 IQ. And yes, I am arguing from incredulity."

That is, the fact that you do not understand something, then it cannot be true, premised on your IQ. Lots of other examples, it was pretty clear to me what your game was.

My opinions are...opinions. Deal with it without the ad homs.

Why is it that so many creationists do not actually know what an ad hom is?

Still doing research (cat purring is interesting).

And yet your original laughable gibberish (and your immediate dismissal of my corrections of your erroneous claims) was presented as nearly airtight, and my corrections were dismissed. Such hubris from the fellow that now admits to being a layman.

 

[bhsmte]

America's freedom is closely tied to gun ownership.

What else is freedom tied to, in your opinion?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What else is freedom tied to, in your opinion?

Personal responsibility, good citizenship. These are sadly lacking here, thus the need for more guns.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Why is it that so many creationists do not actually know what an ad hom is?

It's the 'blithering idiot' part of your rebuttals.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Oh?

"135 IQ. And yes, I am arguing from incredulity."

That is, the fact that you do not understand something, then it cannot be true, premised on your IQ. Lots of other examples, it was pretty clear to me what your game was.

My 'game' is to present my opinion, not change yours. Arguing from incredulity is a valid argument in the case of evolution, regardless of IQ.

 

[Kaon]

The recent observation of molecular convergence in many species poses impossible mathematical challenges to evolution. I would be interested to know how this can be refuted... maskofscience.com

Panspermia will be the new thing before we go back to the reality of what we call myths. Enjoy the ride of academia, or skip the intellectual hull and go straight to looking at mythos.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Hey hey storm

Your argument is he cannot compare a man made machine to the process of evolution - cool but this may impede your success at making any future analogies for explanation or have i misunderstood something?

Your reason being a man made or mechanical machine cannot self replicate.

How does the inability for a machine to self replicate prove you right and xiang wrong?

Cheers, notice how i didnt make any pleasantries?

Because machines cannot follow the laws of biology, and thus they cannot evolve. Simple.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Hey hey

So what does this mean when we consider the theory of evolution?

Nothing. The theory of evolution is sound science.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That is a huge admission.

Bigger than anything you admit.