Evolution is just a theory!

[joshua 1 9]

No one is being born with genetic deficiencies???

As I understand it, Siamese cats hold the record on being born with something wrong with them.

They want to play both sides of the issue. They say up to 10% of the DNA is contaminated with some sort of a virus. Now they are trying to deny that and say that there are no genetic deficiencies? I thought there whole theory was based on mutations, errors and defects in the DNA. All of life is suppose to be a produce of mistakes and errors.

 

[Colter]

What priest?

The Hebrew priest.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No one is being born with genetic deficiencies???

As I understand it, Siamese cats hold the record on being born with something wrong with them.

I am not saying that genetic deficiencies do not exist. I am just saying that genetic deficiencies are not a result of the story told in Genesis.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They want to play both sides of the issue. They say up to 10% of the DNA is contaminated with some sort of a virus. Now they are trying to deny that and say that there are no genetic deficiencies? I thought there whole theory was based on mutations, errors and defects in the DNA. All of life is suppose to be a produce of mistakes and errors.

Since it's me who AV is replying to, I'll step.
I am, in no way shape or form, denying that genetic deficiencies exist. I am just saying that genetic deficiencies do not exist because of the story told in Genesis.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I am not saying that genetic deficiencies do not exist. I am just saying that genetic deficiencies are not a result of the story told in Genesis.

If Adam & Eve had not followed the Serpent in his rebellion then the earth would be a paradise today. Not in the condition that it is in. All of creation is going to be redeemed and restored. Evolution seems to disregard all of that. It is like trying to solve a puzzle when you are missing an essential piece.

 

[bhsmte]

If Adam & Eve had not followed the Serpent in his rebellion then the earth would be a paradise today. Not in the condition that it is in. All of creation is going to be redeemed and restored. Evolution seems to disregard all of that. It is like trying to solve a puzzle when you are missing an essential piece.

Scientific theories tend to disregard influences, that lack evidence to support them.

If you have "scientific evidence" that Adam and Eve influenced defects in DNA and it should be included in the TOE, please present this scientific evidence.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If Adam & Eve had not followed the Serpent in his rebellion then the earth would be a paradise today. Not in the condition that it is in. All of creation is going to be redeemed and restored. Evolution seems to disregard all of that. It is like trying to solve a puzzle when you are missing an essential piece.

Of course it doesn't follow it. Because there is no evidence for such a thing having occurred.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Of course it doesn't follow it. Because there is no evidence for such a thing having occurred.

There is plenty of evidence that the world is in a fallen state. Creationism and Evolution has a different explanation for the exact same evidence.

 

[bhsmte]

There is plenty of evidence that the world is in a fallen state. Creationism and Evolution has a different explanation for the exact same evidence.

Stories, are not evidence.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There is plenty of evidence that the world is in a fallen state. Creationism and Evolution has a different explanation for the exact same evidence.

I have seen many, many, MANY threads on this site where many of your ilk claim that you have evidence for a creation caused by God. In all of those, ZERO evidence has been presented.
If you plan to respond to this with the claim that the Bible is evidence, I will save you some time in waiting for my reply: the Bible is not evidence. It is a claim only.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Blame the theory of evolution on apes. Man looks at apes, looks at themselves-
all of a sudden the headline reads 'we evolved'.

 

[Colter]

There is plenty of evidence that the world is in a fallen state. Creationism and Evolution has a different explanation for the exact same evidence.

Maybe life evolved on this old earth after it was placed here in primitive form 550,000,000 years ago, and will-conscious man sprang onto the scene 1,000,000 years ago, and the fist administration of spiritual leadership was the bright "prince of this world" who fell into sin, caught up in the Lucifer rebellion, becoming the "crafty beast" who would trip up the worlds 2nd administrators, Adam and Eve once they arrived leading to further complications on a previously fallen world.

* The "beast" was already fallen, already sinful, working against Gods will for Adam & Eve.

* True though, had Adam & Eve stayed loyal they would have effected the illumination of disease and defective genetic strains. We would be a much more homogeneous world. But sadly they did not remain loyal, their genetic infusion into the human races has spread in an imbalanced way.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you have "scientific evidence" that Adam and Eve influenced defects in DNA and it should be included in the TOE, please present this scientific evidence.

Close but no cigar. The world was in a fallen state back before Pangea was broken up. Adam and Eve joined in at that point in time. This all hinges on ONE Hebrew word: "dominion" Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Also the word "replenish" is important. Many many books could be written to explain what "replenish the earth" means. What does it mean to "subdue it"? So here we have three words to deal with replenish, subdue and dominion. That is a lot to have to deal with. Hundreds of thousands of books fill the library of all the major universities that talk about these 32 verses in the Bible. It will take many, many books to explain the meaning of those three words.

 

[Colter]

I have seen many, many, MANY threads on this site where many of your ilk claim that you have evidence for a creation caused by God. In all of those, ZERO evidence has been presented.
If you plan to respond to this with the claim that the Bible is evidence, I will save you some time in waiting for my reply: the Bible is not evidence. It is a claim only.

By the same token, we see atheist that claim that things that happened long ago, preserved in religious evolution, didn't happen because that was a long time ago. Atheist have no proof that it didn't happen, so their contentions become a matter so faith.

 

[bhsmte]

Close but no cigar. The world was in a fallen state back before Pangea was broken up. Adam and Eve joined in at that point in time. This all hinges on ONE Hebrew word: "dominion" Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Also the word "replenish" is important. Many many books could be written to explain what "replenish the earth" means. What does it mean to "subdue it"?

So here we have three words to deal with replenish, subdue and dominion. That is a lot to have to deal with. Hundreds of thousands of books fill the library of all the major universities that talk about these 32 verses in the Bible. It will take many, many books to explain the meaning of those three words.

Any scientific evidence that the TOE is missing?

I don't see any in this post.

 

[bhsmte]

By the same token, we see atheist that claim that things that happened long ago, preserved in religious evolution, didn't happen because that was a long time ago. Atheist have no proof that it didn't happen, so their contentions become a matter so faith.

Not believing in something because there is a lack of evidence, is not faith.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

By the same token, we see atheist that claim that things that happened long ago, preserved in religious evolution, didn't happen because that was a long time ago. Atheist have no proof that it didn't happen, so their contentions become a matter so faith.

I'm going to correct a thing here, since I think you are being very unfair with your comment. It's not atheists who say that the story of Genesis did not happen as literal history. Many Bible believing Christians, of various denominations on this site, agree that the account given in Genesis is not literal.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Close but no cigar. The world was in a fallen state back before Pangea was broken up. Adam and Eve joined in at that point in time. This all hinges on ONE Hebrew word: "dominion" Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Also the word "replenish" is important. Many many books could be written to explain what "replenish the earth" means. What does it mean to "subdue it"? So here we have three words to deal with replenish, subdue and dominion. That is a lot to have to deal with. Hundreds of thousands of books fill the library of all the major universities that talk about these 32 verses in the Bible. It will take many, many books to explain the meaning of those three words.

And yet we have literally ZERO evidence that humanoid life existed before the split on Pangea.

 

[joshua 1 9]

* True though, had Adam & Eve stayed loyal they would have effected the illumination of disease and defective genetic strains. We would be a much more homogeneous world. But sadly they did not remain loyal, their genetic infusion into the human races has spread in an imbalanced way.

What I have trouble to wrap my brain around is what would have happened if Adam had not followed Eve in her sin. We are told that Eve was deceived but Adams sin is more serious because he sinned in full knowledge of the truth knowing that what he did was wrong. 1Tim2 "14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression."

 

[joshua 1 9]

And yet we have literally ZERO evidence that humanoid life existed before the split on Pangea.

There were small mammals living on Pangea that later on evolved into humans and all the other mammals we see today. Otherwise the atmosphere was very different during the time of the dinosaurs, so that larger mammals and dinosaurs could not survive at the same time. Even if they could it would be like bears and humans in Alaska where they compete for the same food.