Evolution is a Lie

[rjc34]

I take it that you're talking about Darwinism and not adaptation. The data being gathered on the mechanism does not support this.

Luckily your wishful thinking does not equal fact.

Coincidentally just the opposite is true. So, in the words of AV, you can take a hike.

 

[Nathan Poe]

AV, you want to have a world where there are things off-limits for science and reason. You want to compartmentalize a section of the world that you perceive to be the "Goddidit" domain. It's a good thing that us science people are willing to dig into your "Goddidit" domain, and actually find out why things happen, rather than be satisfied with "oh because God made it that way/wants it that way/whatever".

The case and point is with your interpretation of David's disease. You claim that since the Bible calls it "strange" it MUST be a "Goddidit" scenario. You claim that this is a disease that is off-limits for science. Well what if that disease was tuberculosis? What if it was cancer? What if it was complications of HIV infection? Your narrow-mindedness would lead to the destruction of free inquiry (and the discovery of life-saving treatments) if everyone in the world thought like you.

In the land of the ignorant, the man who wears it like a badge is King.

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Nevermind ... just nevermind.

Gotta be be the smartest response I've ever seen AV make -- kudos.

 

[rjc34]

As an IRL doctor-in-training, I would just like to say that many diseases we have could be described as "strange" or "coming from God" without them being literally some "super disease" that isn't around today. Like I said before, they probably would have been impressed by jaundice.

And even now we literally have 'super-bugs' forming because of evolution and adaptation. Antibiotic resistant staph infections, multi-drug resistant TB...etc etc. Dangerous stuff.

And then we have the 'evil' diseases that if not contained could wipe out a significant chunk of the population. (Things like Ebola virus scare the bejeezus out of me)

 

[axles of fate]

Why do you people continue to insist to study the bible that men wrote. God made the world with his own hands uh duh. Creationists like I am who decide to be smart or just have a little common sense decide to study this earth that god made and how he made it. Man wrote the bible guys not god. God influenced the bible being written and god came up with alot of the bible himself but if you say that god came up with every word, every scripture, every term your letting the bible blind you from logic and reason hiding you from the truth of this beautiful and evidence rich earth.

 

[rjc34]

Gotta be be the smartest response I've ever seen AV make -- kudos.

I'm curious if he actually posted it, or just deleted it while typing the response and left [deleted] to let us know. If he did actually post it... what did he say?

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

And even now we literally have 'super-bugs' forming because of evolution and adaptation. Antibiotic resistant staph infections, multi-drug resistant TB...etc etc. Dangerous stuff.

And then we have the 'evil' diseases that if not contained could wipe out a significant chunk of the population. (Things like Ebola virus scare the bejeezus out of me)

Seriously, man. Ebola would thin the herd for sure. I remember reading a while ago that the only time they ever found a way to treat it during an outbreak in Africa was to purify the antibodies of the few people who were immune to it and inject them into people who were in the early stages of the disease. It wasn't even that effective. Scary.

 

[Nathan Poe]

And even now we literally have 'super-bugs' forming because of evolution and adaptation. Antibiotic resistant staph infections, multi-drug resistant TB...etc etc. Dangerous stuff.

And then we have the 'evil' diseases that if not contained could wipe out a significant chunk of the population. (Things like Ebola virus scare the bejeezus out of me)

But one thing we can always be sure about:

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

But one thing we can always be sure about:

11-20-2007

The patient was the guy from Hurt Locker. Good episode.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I'm curious if he actually posted it, or just deleted it while typing the response and left [deleted] to let us know. If he did actually post it... what did he say?

Don't know, don't care -- nothing AV is capable of saying would've been smarter at that point than "nevermind."

 

[Naraoia]

Seriously, man. Ebola would thin the herd for sure. I remember reading a while ago that the only time they ever found a way to treat it during an outbreak in Africa was to purify the antibodies of the few people who were immune to it and inject them into people who were in the early stages of the disease. It wasn't even that effective. Scary.

Some people are IMMUNE? <<Staff Edit>>

 

[rjc34]

This is about Almighty God; and I'd say it's presumptuous (but your prerogative) to say that God could send something He calls 'strange', and you guys could figure it out.

So when god sent the black plague to a society that had been in the scientifically persecuted dark ages of the church for centuries... and kills 1/3 to 2/3 of the European population... what was the goal of that? (And these were all god-fearing, church going peoples as well!)

Or horrible diseases like Ebola virus? Diseases that are sometimes 90% fatal and essentially make you bleed to death from the inside out? What was the plan for that?

 

[Skaloop]

Some people are IMMUNE? <<Staff Edit>>

I dunno, it would be kind of awkward.

"Hey, how are you today?"
"Fine, thanks. And you?"
"Oh, just vomiting up my organs and bleeding from every orifice as my body is liquefied from the inside."

Not to mention the smell.

 

[axles of fate]

Don't know, don't care -- nothing AV is capable of saying would've been smarter at that point than "nevermind."

Yes so true lol

 

[AV1611VET]

So when god sent the black plague to a society that had been in the scientifically persecuted dark ages of the church for centuries... and kills 1/3 to 2/3 of the European population... what was the goal of that? (And these were all god-fearing, church going peoples as well!)

Who said God sent the Black Plague?

God, in my right to have an opinion, smites King David with a strange disease (probably the aforementioned 'burning ague'), and this means He sent the Black Plague?

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Some people are IMMUNE? <<Staff Edit>>

Yep. There was a group of people during an outbreak that had protective antibodies against Ebola which was used as treatment for others. This implies they must have gained the immunity by either being exposed to Ebola antigen before, or something very similar to it. Or maybe they have receptor polymorphisms that don't allow very good binding of the virus, allowing the virus to prompt an immune response without causing much disease. Who knows. But they lucky for sure. Maybe it's like people that have CCR5 mutations and are immune to HIV (but I'm not sure if they make antibodies...)

 

[dad]

I never said that wasn't the case. You claimed a particular statement about 'my' computer's calendar was a fact; I pointed out that that fact doesn't quite correspond to reality.

Ah, OK. So what, did you set it differently?

 

[dad]

Well it did take many, many generations. The world has been around for about 4 to 5 billion years. The first fossil evidence of life dates to about 3.5 billion years ago. That's a long, long time. About 150,000,000 generations, assuming a generation is about 30 years.

You are misinformed. The fossils are actually not that old.

 

[dad]

evolution is slow the world has existed for billions of years (you will probebly deny this as well) it took billions of years of life to get where it is today and please dad stop contradicting yourself in your posts it is so funny.

What is funny is that you haven't gotten the point yet. Present slow evolution is not what was in place pre flood. Neither was present laws, lifespans, plant growth rates, and etc. So, that means that we can have all the evolving from created kinds you could ever conceive, and maybe more, and no long ages are needed. Wonderful, how God really was right all along. I almost feel like spreading the news. I would enjoy speaking in schools...

 

[AV1611VET]

I would enjoy speaking in schools...

-- How dare you disrespect Madayln Murray O'Hair.

 

[dad]

-- How dare you disrespect Madayln Murray O'Hair.

Is that some evo naysayer? I would love to deeply disrespect her if so!