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Evolution is a Fact
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Off the top of my head, dolphins are quite aware and exhibit a sense of humor, elephants mourn their dead, animals (including humans) need to sleep at least once a day, and time is an artificial construct anyhow. As for living in harmony, it's homo sapiens who have pretty much screwed up our environment and are responsible for wiping out untold species, which isn't so moral in my opinion. And bigger brains allow us to figure things out and come up with concepts like morality, nothing special about that. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he's probably better off if I don't steal my neighbor's car, sleep with his wife, and then kill him to cover it up and then lie about it.You are suggesting the mother's love for her young, the caring part....granted. But lets have a look before animals evolved, it must have been some very weird organisms, they probably did not have certain sexes, so when after that did love evolve?
Why does animals not have humor, Appreciation of beauty, Self-consciousness, Awareness of death, Understanding time, Meaning of life, Malleability, Lack of harmony with nature(pollution, etc.), A sense of morality, build Character, Free moral agency, Capacity for wisdom, Desire for worship.......?
If we are the product of evolution there must be a type of living creature that must be close to us.....they too is living in societies, but have been living like their forefathers.......
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VirOptimus
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To hopeof9; No, that is not what evolution theory says. Educate yourself on the subject before you critizise it.
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Not accurately understanding the definition of faith is your problem, not mine. Actually, I accept ToE because of the evidence, not lack of (as in believing in a supernatural being). If a better theory came out tomorrow that better explains the biodiversity that we see today, then I'd accept as well. Until, then, ToE is doing fine, no faith needed.
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Not even close.
And fyi, attributing faith to your opponents in that way makes it sound like such a bad thing.
This is why I'm staying as a theistic evolutionist, the self-hatred that creationism entails just isn't for me.
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You are suggesting the mother's love for her young, the caring part....granted. But lets have a look before animals evolved, it must have been some very weird organisms, they probably did not have certain sexes, so when after that did love evolve?
Why does animals not have humor, Appreciation of beauty, Self-consciousness, Awareness of death, Understanding time, Meaning of life, Malleability, Lack of harmony with nature(pollution, etc.), A sense of morality, build Character, Free moral agency, Capacity for wisdom, Desire for worship.......?
If we are the product of evolution there must be a type of living creature that must be close to us.....they too is living in societies, but have been living like their forefathers.......
And there are. Some have been listed already. Many primates, our closest relatives, have many of the same social constructs and emotions as we do.
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We can answer these questions, and previous posters have already, so I would like to take this moment to ask you something.
You are aware that, even with your moral outrage, even if we were unable to answer these in a morally satisfying way, which we can, that wouldn't change a thing, right?
Evolution, as I've demonstrated, is a fact. Ethical protests are meaningless in this regard.
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How depressing. Does this view affect your everyday lives? Ever thought they were an effect, not a cause?
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So you think that faith is a bad thing, best to be avoided? Faith leads to wrong conclusions.
I suggest you ask him to grant you some honesty and humility instead.
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Faith could be a bad thing depending on where you put it. Faith in God leads to life abundantly, and with that comes peace, joy meaning, and purpose in life. Those things that make life worth living.
Can you get more honest than Jesus? For he is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. Your choice, to accept this or not. Monkeys dont have that choice.
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They absolutely do have that choice, considering that humans are monkeys.
I mean, yes, we are apes. But, biologically, there's no trait that all monkeys have that no apes have, or visa versa.
Humans are monkeys.
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How do you know that they don't have a choice? How do you know that other apes can't go to heaven? What method did you use to come to this conclusion? Is there any way for us to test this hypothesis?
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Your kidding , right?
I often say that if people would focus more on the differences between us and apes rather than the similarities you might realize our uniqueness over them. And it is that difference that uniqueness that alows us to have a personal relationship with our Creator.
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Nope, I'm serious. How do you know these things? What convinced you that it is true? What method did you use to test your hypothesis? How do you know what you know? Seems like a reasonable question to me. I would like to know how you gained knowledge on this subject. You seem very confident about it so I would like to know.Your kidding , right?
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You're kind of right. It's true, our bigger brains does make homo sapiens unique over other primates. I believe it is our bigger brains that allows us to come up with a concept of god or a creator.Your kidding , right?
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