Evolution is a Fact

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The Theory of Gravity.
Atomic Theory.
Germ Theory.

These are all theories, as well as facts.

Anyone who says that "evolution is just a theory" doesn't understand what a theory is.

To quote AronRa,


It is a fact that evolution happens; that biodiversity and complexity does increase, that both occur naturally only by evolutionary means.

It is a fact that alleles vary with increasing distinction in reproductive populations and that these are accelerated in genetically isolated groups.

It is a fact that natural selection, sexual selection, and genetic drift have all been proven to have predictable effect in guiding this variance.

It is a fact that significant beneficial mutations do occur and are inherited by descendant groups, and that multiple independent sets of biological markers exist to trace these lineages backwards over many generations.

It is a fact that birds are a subset of dinosaurs the same way humans are a subset of apes, primates, eutherian mammals, and vertebrate deuterostome animals.

It is a fact that the collective genome of all animals has been traced to its most basal form, and that those forms are also indicated by comparative morphology, physiology, and embryological development.

It is a fact that everything on earth has definite relatives either living nearby or evident in the fossil record.

It is a fact that the fossil record holds hundreds of definitely transitional species even according to it’s strictest definition, and that both microevolution and macroevolution have been directly-observed.

Evolution is a fact.
 

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The Theory of Gravity.
Atomic Theory.
Germ Theory.

These are all theories, as well as facts.

Anyone who says that "evolution is just a theory" doesn't understand what a theory is.

To quote AronRa,


It is a fact that evolution happens; that biodiversity and complexity does increase, that both occur naturally only by evolutionary means.

It is a fact that alleles vary with increasing distinction in reproductive populations and that these are accelerated in genetically isolated groups.

It is a fact that natural selection, sexual selection, and genetic drift have all been proven to have predictable effect in guiding this variance.

It is a fact that significant beneficial mutations do occur and are inherited by descendant groups, and that multiple independent sets of biological markers exist to trace these lineages backwards over many generations.

It is a fact that birds are a subset of dinosaurs the same way humans are a subset of apes, primates, eutherian mammals, and vertebrate deuterostome animals.

It is a fact that the collective genome of all animals has been traced to its most basal form, and that those forms are also indicated by comparative morphology, physiology, and embryological development.

It is a fact that everything on earth has definite relatives either living nearby or evident in the fossil record.

It is a fact that the fossil record holds hundreds of definitely transitional species even according to it’s strictest definition, and that both microevolution and macroevolution have been directly-observed.

Evolution is a fact.

Well said -- unfortunately, there are only two types of people on this board: Those who don't need to hear it and those who don't want to hear it.

Well said, nevertheless.
 
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You are of course correct. But there are a number of laymen on this board who don't understand how science works, and think what their pastor declares from the pulpit trumps clearly observable and peer-reviewed scientific research.

Indeed. Not only do they not understand the basis of science they are also equally ignorant of the Bible.
 
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It is a fact that everything on earth has definite relatives either living nearby or evident in the fossil record.
Including the angels? Did angels evolve? Do angels die and become implanted in the fossil record?
 
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Including the angels? Did angels evolve? Do angels die and become implanted in the fossil record?

Only so far as the Hydra did.

Or Pegasus.

Or the Minotaur.

Or centaurs.

Or mermaids.

Or harpies.

Or wyverns.

Or the cyclops.

Or gorgons.

Or the Kraken.

Or the Balrog.

Or orcs.

Or Shelob.

Or elves.

Or goblins.

Or trolls.

Or lizardmen.

Or ogres.
 
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Only so far as the Hydra did.

Or Pegasus.

Or the Minotaur.

Or centaurs.

Or mermaids.

Or harpies.

Or wyverns.

Or the cyclops.

Or gorgons.

Or the Kraken.
Is that what you're taught in higher academia, or did you [seem to] intuitively ascertain that on your own?
 
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Is that what you're taught in higher academia, or did you [seem to] intuitively ascertain that on your own?

Jealous that you quite clearly failed school, and didn't get into college?

The mysteries of higher education will always remain, for you.

I can tell you, though, that unless you're studying ancient mythology, then you won't learn anything about any of the above in higher education.

However, I was pointing out that they evolved in exactly the same way as angels did. Their ancestors are human creativity, and a fear of the unknown. Nothing more, nothing less. Angels included.
 
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Kraken does in fact exist, it's a giant squid. So do angels, but they normally can't be seen.

Giant squid aren't nearly as big as the Kraken was 'sposed to be

What evidence is there to support your conclusion that angels exist?

They're no more real than any of the mythological creatures mentioned above.
 
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However, I was pointing out that they evolved in exactly the same way as angels did. Their ancestors are human creativity, and a fear of the unknown. Nothing more, nothing less. Angels included.
I know what you were pointing out.

How about pointing out an answer to my question now?

Or are you going to yak it to death first?
 
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Yes evolution is a fact, unless you have the misfortune of being home tutored in quite a few homes in the US, it then becomes the devils invention, the enemy of God and the Bible and the most evil tool of those God denying child eating racists called Atheists.
Warping a childs mind should be made a felony in the US but it would seem even presidents have actively encouraged it, I think it's called 'the American way'.
 
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I know what you were pointing out.

How about pointing out an answer to my question now?

Or are you going to yak it to death first?


It's a moot question.

It's like asking what car Aragorn had.

It's like asking what graphics card Hercules had in his computer.

It's like asking where Romeo kept his lightsaber.

It's an unanswerable, pointless question.
 
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Kraken does in fact exist, it's a giant squid. So do angels, but they normally can't be seen.
Science runs on the out-of-sight-out-of-mind principle, unless it hears what it thinks is a faint cry somewhere; then it'll spare no cost to build equipment to find what it was and where it came from.

That's why we have junk roaming around on Mars, junk orbiting planets, junk on its way past Pluto, junk being built to find junk.

The Martians aughta send those rovers back to us with a note saying: The next peeping tom machine you send here is coming back as a paperweight.

Someone leaves a water faucet running on the moon, and the next thing you know, you've got earth scientists going nuts over the mess.
 
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Is that what you're taught in higher academia, or did you [seem to] intuitively ascertain that on your own?
It's a moot question.

It's like asking what car Aragorn had.

It's like asking what graphics card Hercules had in his computer.

It's like asking where Romeo kept his lightsaber.

It's an unanswerable, pointless question.
I don't think you realize you just insulted yourself.
 
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Science runs on the out-of-sight-out-of-mind principle, unless it hears what it thinks is a faint cry somewhere; then it'll spare no cost to build equipment to find what it was and where it came from.

Again, showing how little of science you understand.

That's why we have junk roaming around on Mars, junk orbiting planets, junk on its way past Pluto, junk being built to find junk.

Multi-billion dollar "junk" that serves a purpose. Exploration. But of course, all the answers you need are in your little bronze age story book. You don't need real answers.

The Martians aughta send those rovers back to us with a note saying: The next peeping tom machine you send here is coming back as a paperweight.

The Martians, if they exist (It's unlikely, but not impossible.), could only be microbial. I'd like to see bacteria launch a probe out of orbit, and to another planet.

Someone leaves a water faucet running on the moon, and the next thing you know, you've got earth scientists going nuts over the mess.

What?

We've found water on the moon... we didn't put it there, there's no plumbing leading up there...
 
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I don't think you realize you just insulted yourself.


How so?

By pointing out how stupid the question was?

If you can tell me what car Aragorn drove, or if you can tell me what graphics card Hercules had, or where Romeo kept his lightsaber, then I'll look into telling you if angels evolved, and died, and left behind fossils.
 
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Yes evolution is a fact, unless you have the misfortune of being home tutored in quite a few homes in the US, it then becomes the devils invention, the enemy of God and the Bible and the most evil tool of those God denying child eating racists called Atheists.
Warping a childs mind should be made a felony in the US but it would seem even presidents have actively encouraged it, I think it's called 'the American way'.


Mmm...kids. Yummy. They go well on toast, sometimes with some type of pasta, too. I only eat white ones, though. ;)
 
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Science runs on the out-of-sight-out-of-mind principle, unless it hears what it thinks is a faint cry somewhere; then it'll spare no cost to build equipment to find what it was and where it came from.

That's why we have junk roaming around on Mars, junk orbiting planets, junk on its way past Pluto, junk being built to find junk.

The Martians aughta send those rovers back to us with a note saying: The next peeping tom machine you send here is coming back as a paperweight.

Someone leaves a water faucet running on the moon, and the next thing you know, you've got earth scientists going nuts over the mess.

It's ignorant posts like this that make me oh-so-very-satisfied your tax dollars are going towards funding big science.

Keep the $$$ coming, AV.
 
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It's ignorant posts like this that make me oh-so-very-satisfied your tax dollars are going towards funding big science.

Keep the $$$ coming, AV.

Haha!

I bet it makes him rage when he thinks that his tax money's being used to further research things that are based on evolution and the Earth being 4.5bn years old!
 
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