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If you are looking for evidence to prove evolution false the flood aftermath provides all you would want to know

The problem Tas, is that the strata we have does not have its origin as flood deposits. They are from other sources both terrestrial and marine which take quite a long time to form.
 
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The problem Tas, is that the strata we have does not have its origin as flood deposits. They are from other sources both terrestrial and marine which take quite a long time to form.
Some deposits are from Flood origins other of catastrophic upheaval during and following the Flood.
 
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Some deposits are from Flood origins other of catastrophic upheaval during and following the Flood.

Please specify a specific layer of strata and let's discuss the processes of its formation. By a specific layer of strata I don't mean a generic period like Cambrian or Devonian. I mean a specific location and name such as the Coconino Sandstone or kaibab Limestone formations of the Grand Canyon or any formation and location of your choice.
 
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That is a false accusation. And I will let you know right off, if you are going to get personal I will not hesitate report you. I didn't even bring up the flood. I was making the case that such a flood could not explain the fossil record.

Understand?

fair enough, just making sure.
 
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The problem Tas, is that the strata we have does not have its origin as flood deposits. They are from other sources both terrestrial and marine which take quite a long time to form.


I assume you are talking fossils in the strata yes?
Chemicals must be injected into soft tissue under heaps of pressure. With the problem of scavenging and corrosion, these chemicals and rate must be very fast in order to preserve the mold. One of three chemicals must be present in the ground when this happens, sodium bicorbonate is one. Not sure. But these must be christalized and present and be injected for the fossilization to reject corrossion. So if there shells, they are long gone now.

The above problems with fossilization reveals another problem for evolutionists. Why did so many fossils fossilize? For one we don't have that much chemical in the earth. #2 duckbill dinasaur graveyards show that flash flooding could never deposit the amount of fossil remains, and sediment to wash over 10000 dinasaurs in a single moment. It must have been catastrophic, a global flood.

here is more on it:

Geology and the Global Flood - YouTube
 
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I assume you are talking fossils in the strata yes?
Chemicals must be injected into soft tissue under heaps of pressure. With the problem of scavenging and corrosion, these chemicals and rate must be very fast in order to preserve the mold. One of three chemicals must be present in the ground when this happens, sodium bicorbonate is one. Not sure. But these must be christalized and present and be injected for the fossilization to reject corrossion. So if there shells, they are long gone now.

I don't know where you got that statement but it does not relate to the fossilization process whatsoever. Please provide your source. BTW, just to let you know, if you are going the dunning/kruger route involving chemistry, you might want to know that I spent most of my working career as a research chemist, I can get quite technical on you real quick.

As for fossilization, the process involves the replacement or organic material, generally silicates, not NaHCO[sub]3[/sub], and it is not injected. It is a slow replacement process through dissolved minerals. As for shells, the are already composed of Na[sub]2[/sub]CO[sub]3[/sub] or Ca[sub]2[/sub]CO[sub]3 [/sub]or both.

The above problems with fossilization reveals another problem for evolutionists.
Paleontologist would be the proper word to use, not evolutionists, not to mention the process described above is rubbish.

Why did so many fossils fossilize? For one we don't have that much chemical in the earth.
Rubbish. Fossils are indeed rare. This is due to the environment in which they are buried in, not a lack of chemicals. In fact, the process you described is not fossilization, rather precipitation forming a calcareous coating. I think it was AiG that has an article doing this with a sponge.

#2 duckbill dinasaur graveyards show that flash flooding could never deposit the amount of fossil remains, and sediment to wash over 10000 dinasaurs in a single moment. It must have been catastrophic, a global flood.
Aren't you the one who said this thread is not about the flood? Nevertheless, 10,000 duckbill dinosaurs in one site? Source please.
 
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Please specify a specific layer of strata and let's discuss the processes of its formation. By a specific layer of strata I don't mean a generic period like Cambrian or Devonian. I mean a specific location and name such as the Coconino Sandstone or kaibab Limestone formations of the Grand Canyon or any formation and location of your choice.
OK How about telling us about the Redwall layer of the GC and how all the 1000s of nautiloids ended up all facing the same direction rather than in a random pattern.
 
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OK How about telling us about the Redwall layer of the GC and how all the 1000s of nautiloids ended up all facing the same direction rather than in a random pattern.

I have not seen anything in the scientific literature stating such. Since you are aware of this, please provide a citation directly from the scientific literature. I will be glad to review it. Thanks.
 
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I have not seen anything in the scientific literature stating such. Since you are aware of this, please provide a citation directly from the scientific literature. I will be glad to review it. Thanks.
Well I will wait till you learn all about it if you like.
 
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Well I will wait till you learn all about it if you like.

Your claim, where's the evidence? And while you are at it please explain how the Coconino and Hermit Shell formations were deposited in a flood. Also explain how limestone forms.
 
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Your claim, where's the evidence? And while you are at it please explain how the Coconino and Hermit Shell formations were deposited in a flood. Also explain how limestone forms.
No you go first and tell me how the nautilus got there. Hey I did what you wanted remember Name a layer and you would discuss it
Well go ahead discuss it
 
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