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Evolution Exposed

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The number of ways a 206-part human skeleton can be assembled is 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 . . . x 206 = 10 to the power 388 (1 with 388 zeroes following it).

ƒJerry Bergman: If you could complete one new random trial arrangement of these 206 bones every second “for every single second available in all of the estimated evolutionary view of astronomic time (about 10 to 20 billion years), using the most conservative estimate . . . . the chances that the correct general position will be obtained by random is less than once in 10 billion years.” “For all practical purposes a zero possibility exists that the correct general position of only 206 parts could be obtained simultaneously by chance—and the average human has about 75 trillion cells! . . . This illustration indicates that the argument commonly used by evolutionists—‘given enough time, anything is possible’—is wanting.” (In Six Days, ed John Ashton, p 26, 27)
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Psalm 139:13, 14—“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.”
Source: http://evolutionvcreation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/dwight-nelson-anniversary-of-charles.html
 
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The number of ways a 206-part human skeleton can be assembled is 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 . . . x 206 = 10 to the power 388 (1 with 388 zeroes following it).

ƒJerry Bergman: If you could complete one new random trial arrangement of these 206 bones every second “for every single second available in all of the estimated evolutionary view of astronomic time (about 10 to 20 billion years), using the most conservative estimate . . . . the chances that the correct general position will be obtained by random is less than once in 10 billion years.” “For all practical purposes a zero possibility exists that the correct general position of only 206 parts could be obtained simultaneously by chance—and the average human has about 75 trillion cells! . . . This illustration indicates that the argument commonly used by evolutionists—‘given enough time, anything is possible’—is wanting.” (In Six Days, ed John Ashton, p 26, 27)
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Psalm 139:13, 14—“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.”
Source: http://evolutionvcreation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/dwight-nelson-anniversary-of-charles.html

Um... You do realize it's not chance, right? If I drop a ball, there are infinite directions that it could theoretically fall... But in reality, it will always fall in a direction dictated by gravity. It's not some impossible chance that when I drop a ball in the same place, it falls in the same spot every time, even though it could have fallen in any number of virtually infinite directions - it's merely a matter of the ball heeding to the laws of the universe. Simply put, it's not random. There is nothing random about how a human body is put together, any more than there is anything random about how gravity will tug a falling object.
 
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Man is the only creature that evolved without a suitable food supply evolving at the same time to feed him.
Um... You do realize it's not chance, right? If I drop a ball, there are infinite directions that it could theoretically fall... But in reality, it will always fall in a direction dictated by gravity. It's not some impossible chance that when I drop a ball in the same place, it falls in the same spot every time, even though it could have fallen in any number of virtually infinite directions - it's merely a matter of the ball heeding to the laws of the universe. Simply put, it's not random. There is nothing random about how a human body is put together, any more than there is anything random about how gravity will tug a falling object.

So there is a guiding external force involved in evolution?
 
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I'm sorry, but I thought you were claiming that Chrisitainity makes you live longer because of the Christian god's help. Your sources claim that spirituality helps one live longer, whcih doesn't even require belief in a god. Even just meditating. What does any of that have to do with your earlier claim?
 
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well what can I say .. (without turning it into a creation vs evo .. thread which is in the wrong area )
evolution is a theory.. it is rather loosely based on "Some" small amount of fact and a large amount of conjecture and assumption . and facts do not automatically equal "truth" ..
-as i say so often .."Example : it is a fact that a man can tell me a lie . "
What conjecture and what assumption?
 
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The number of ways a 206-part human skeleton can be assembled is 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 . . . x 206 = 10 to the power 388 (1 with 388 zeroes following it).

ƒJerry Bergman: If you could complete one new random trial arrangement of these 206 bones every second “for every single second available in all of the estimated evolutionary view of astronomic time (about 10 to 20 billion years), using the most conservative estimate . . . . the chances that the correct general position will be obtained by random is less than once in 10 billion years.” “For all practical purposes a zero possibility exists that the correct general position of only 206 parts could be obtained simultaneously by chance—and the average human has about 75 trillion cells! . . . This illustration indicates that the argument commonly used by evolutionists—‘given enough time, anything is possible’—is wanting.” (In Six Days, ed John Ashton, p 26, 27)
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Psalm 139:13, 14—“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.”
Source: http://evolutionvcreation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/dwight-nelson-anniversary-of-charles.html

Another casualty of poor mathematics and sex education.
 
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Man is the only creature that evolved without a suitable food supply evolving at the same time to feed him.


So there is a guiding external force involved in evolution?
God planted a garden in Eden. He provided a food supply. From the beginning they were not happy with the food they were given. Eve wanted to eat from the forbidden tree.
 
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God planted a garden in Eden. He provided a food supply. From the beginning they were not happy with the food they were given. Eve wanted to eat from the forbidden tree.

The garden of Eden was only meant to sustain them until the scenario of the fall played itself out. After they were escorted out of the garden they had to raise their own food; something animals don't have to do. My point is that man is the only 'evolved' creature that has to produce his own food; a monumental failure of evolution that is unique only to man.
 
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The garden of Eden was prepared by certain people of the fallen earth in preparation for the promise of the arrival of Adam and Eve. The crafty beast or "Prince of this world" then set his sights on Adam & Eve managing outflank and convince Eve to insert her own will or plan into "world saving" leading to default of their mission of redemption. The sin was more than eating fruit.
 
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The garden of Eden was only meant to sustain them until the scenario of the fall played itself out. After they were escorted out of the garden they had to raise their own food; something animals don't have to do. My point is that man is the only 'evolved' creature that has to produce his own food; a monumental failure of evolution that is unique only to man.
That's not actually true. But even if it were, so what? Humankind is "special" in one significant aspect, and decidedly ordinary in numerous others, just like many other species of animals who fit into a specific niche.

Also, I just realized I responded to this quote in the wrong thread.
Man is the only creature that evolved without a suitable food supply evolving at the same time to feed him.

Cite please? Many times, significant changes are driven by a creature's food source being depleted or their environment becoming too competitive or otherwise unliveable, and them needing to adapt to a new environment.

So there is a guiding external force involved in evolution?

Well, the way the human body is put together in the womb is sort of stretching the bounds of what "evolution" is defined as, and calling the laws of physics and chemistry "guiding external forces" as though they implied some intelligence is sort of a misinterpretation of what I was saying.
 
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God planted a garden in Eden. He provided a food supply. From the beginning they were not happy with the food they were given. Eve wanted to eat from the forbidden tree.
Let me guess, this fable was written by a man? :)
 
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As far as evidence pointing the other way, I would love to see some of this evidence. Can you present any?
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Well, how about the fact that something has never been observed to come from nothing, so where did all the matter from the universe come from if not from God?
 
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Boy did the Bible nail that in 1Timothy 6 or what ! to think 2000 years later no one has really evolved at all not even a new tactic !
Might be even more poignant is we actually knew who the author was. Meh.
 
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As far as evidence pointing the other way, I would love to see some of this evidence. Can you present any?
Well, how about the fact that something has never been observed to come from nothing, so where did all the matter from the universe come from if not from God?[/QUOTE]
Maybe it always existed?

*cue Twilight Zone music...
 
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Well, how about the fact that something has never been observed to come from nothing, so where did all the matter from the universe come from if not from God?
Maybe it always existed?

*cue Twilight Zone music...[/QUOTE]
^ :oldthumbsup: it's better to propose the universe recycles itself and all the matter in it and restarts rather than saying god did it.
There is factual basis to that more than god. In fact so much factual basis its actually true. And it would make perfect sense nothing or anything for that matter can keep expanding forever. http://phys.org/news/2015-03-universe-brink-collapse-cosmological-timescale.html
 
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