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Original sin brought sin and death into the good universe of God, and we now currently labor under it on account of our received concupiscence. But it did not change the fact that this universe is God's good creation. The flesh that hangs off your bones is good, God made it, and He called it good.
Pure speculation, at best. You have nothing to base this on.
Heresy.
Heresy.
Meaningless word salad.
-CryptoLutheran
My cat understands me at some level. I don't see that as a sign that she evolved. How many apes have learned a spoken language?They can do that already if you understand sign language
Is your mind changed?
My cat understands me at some level. I don't see that as a sign that she evolved. How many apes have learned a spoken language?
Still not spoken language. My old cat could open a door if it is a lever style handle. She just watched me and realised what the handle did. and I read nothing more into it than God has created wonderful animals that display His power and glory.Great ape language - Wikipedia
There have been a good number, over a dozen or so, that people have retained for language studies. Great apes have demonstrated the ability to understand language to the extent that they can speak it back with use of sign language.
Example:
Washoe (chimpanzee) - Wikipedia
Washoe learned approximately 350 signs of ASL,[2] also teaching her adopted son Loulis (also a chimpanzee) some signs.[3][4][5] She spent most of her life at Central Washington University.
Washoe learned approximately 350 words of sign languages.[2]
For researchers to consider that Washoe had learned a sign, she had to use it spontaneously and appropriately for 14 consecutive days.[18][19]
These signs were then further tested using a double-blind vocabulary test. This test demonstrated 1) "that the chimpanzee subjects could communicate information under conditions in which the only source of information available to a human observer was the signing of the chimpanzee;" 2) "that independent observers agreed with each other;" and 3) "that the chimpanzees used the signs to refer to natural language categories—that the sign DOG could refer to any dog, FLOWER to any flower, SHOE to any shoe."[20][21]
Washoe and her mates were able to combine the hundreds of signs that they learned into novel combinations (that they had never been taught, but rather created themselves) with different meanings. For instance, when Washoe's mate Moja didn't know the word for "thermos", Moja referred to it as a "METAL CUP DRINK"; however, whether or not Washoe's combinations constitute genuine inventive language is controversial, as Herbert S. Terrace contended by concluding that seeming sign combinations did not stand for a single item, but rather were three individual signs.[22][23] Taking the thermos example, rather than METAL CUP DRINK being a composite meaning thermos, it could be that Washoe was indicating there was an item of metal (METAL), one shaped like a cup (CUP), and that could be drunk out of (DRINK).
Still not spoken language. My old cat could open a door if it is a lever style handle. She just watched me and realised what the handle did. and I read nothing more into it than God has created wonderful animals that display His power and glory.
I finally remembered the context of this discussion. It was about the origin of spoken language. I've had an "interesting" two weeks.Apes cannot vocally speak English, if that's what you're asking for. Their jaws and mouths are not shaped or articulated for sound. But they can use sign language, which demonstrates an ability to communicate written language none the less.
Whether they speak it, or sign it, both methods demonstrate an understanding of language.
Is Dark Matter, De Broglie matter-waves? Does it have an inability to collapse into physical particles? Does it remain a decohered wave packet like a photon? Would galaxies hold together without Dark Matter Waves? Is it hinting there is a Creator?Such an idea does not exist, therefore it cannot be discarded.
How many apes have learned a spoken language?
I finally remembered the context of this discussion. It was about the origin of spoken language. I've had an "interesting" two weeks.
Speech is one of the arguments raised against evolution. It is not inbuilt. It has to be taught. Apes can learn sign language. If the ape dies, then whatever it has learned dies with it. Children have the ability to learn spoken language, but it is not built in. There is no satisfactory answer as to how man got from grunts to......... 'According to lexicographer and dictionary expert Susie Dent, “the average active vocabulary of an adult English speaker is around 20,000 words, while his passive vocabulary is around 40,000 words.”'
Now if man was created by God, then God could have taught him to speak. Then man would teach his offspring to speak and so, eventually, we get to a 20,000 word vocabulary. Seems much more plausible to me than cavemen turning into orators.
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