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Evolution and the Human Soul

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Happy, again you have not offered any evidence, simply stated things as if by stating them you somehow make them true.

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Those who are mentally handicapped share the exact same kind of existence as any other human, they are simply unable to express it in the same manner. Simply because they are unable to use it doesn't imply that it is not there.

How do you know that? What evidence do you have? Chimps appear to have much more consciousness than a nearly vegetative metally handicapped person (such as a young girl I know of). Yet you are saying that the more conscious creature, who one can communicate with, has no soul, but the vegetative person does not have a soul? What evidence do you hae to support that?


A human cannot exist as a human without the soul,

another bare assertion. Do you have any evidence of that? Do you have any way to know that a fully normal person, like, say, Tony Blair, actually has a soul?

as the human experience in its fullest extent could not be possible without it.

another bare assertion. Do you have any evidence of that? Do you have a "soul o meter" that you have used to verify that fully functioning humans all have souls? Do you know of a scientific supply store where I could buy one? How much do they cost?

You cannot separate the "soul" of man from all the various other aspects that engender the human experience, as man himself came into existence as a living soul bearing the image of God.

So are you saying that our souls was breathed into us, and that we have a soul because we are in the image of God? So then you are saying that God has a soul? Who breathed God's soul into God? Are you arguing for an Uber-God?

This actually refutes human evolution, as man only became a living soul after God had already formed him.

No, it doesn't refute anything. Hundreds of millions (apparently a majority) of Christians are members of churches which have the stated that God gave humans a soul at some point in their evolution from apes to humans. God first forms humans through evolution, then gives them a soul as Genesis says.

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