Evidence for macro-evolution

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The sentiment is the same.

Not really, no. You're certainly not an apostle. You're just a guy with a chip on your shoulder against anything that disagrees with your own personal literal reading of the Bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not really, no. You're certainly not an apostle. You're just a guy with a chip on your shoulder against anything that disagrees with your own personal literal reading of the Bible.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You're entitled to your opinion.

And as are you. (Had to add it because I think responding with just a like would have been able to be misconstrued as something snarky)

 

[AV1611VET]

And as are you. (Had to add it because I think responding with just a like would have been able to be misconstrued as something snarky)

Is this how you see me?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is this how you see me?

I had thought my comment would end this petty little tit for tat between us.

 

[Ace777]

Starting 23 October 4004 BC

(I use Usher's dates.)

So God rested on the seventh day. Does that mean Adam and Eve at the forbidden fruit on the eighth day Oct 31 and then they died on the ninth day. Nov 1? When did they have Cain and Able if they died on the 8th day?

 

[AV1611VET]

So God rested on the seventh day.

Yup.

Does that mean Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit on the eighth day Oct 31 and then they died on the ninth day. Nov 1?

No.

We don't know how much time elapsed between the Creation Week and the Fall.

Possibly a year.

When did they have Cain and Able if they died on the 8th day?

I don't know how old they were when Cain and Abel were born.

The Bible doesn't say.

 

[Ace777]

Don Quixote style crusade against evolution

People get confused and do not understand that Theistic Evolution is not the same as Atheistic Evolution. In the real world we know that God does not make mistakes and errors in the DNA correct themselves, Even if there were to be an error in the Bible it would correct itself. That maybe why there are no errors. God declares the end from the beginning and calls the things that are not as though they were. Romans 4:17

Isaiah 46:10​

 

[Ace777]

I don't know how old they were when Cain and Abel were born.

The Bible doesn't say.

When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. Genesis 5:3. Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died. Genesis 5:5. So how could he live to be 930 years if he was to die within 24 hours of eating the forbidden fruit? Genesis 2:17 "for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

 

[Astrid]

People get confused and do not understand that Theistic Evolution is not the same as Atheistic Evolution. In the real world we know that God does not make mistakes and errors in the DNA correct themselves, Even if there were to be an error in the Bible it would correct itself. That maybe why there are no errors. God declares the end from the beginning and calls the things that are not as though they were. Romans 4:17

Isaiah 46:10​

" In the real world we know"

 

[AV1611VET]

When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. Genesis 5:3. Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died. Genesis 5:5. So how could he live to be 930 years if he was to die within 24 hours of eating the forbidden fruit? Genesis 2:17 "for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

Adam died spiritually, not physically.

We're all born spiritually dead.

 

[Ace777]

Adam died spiritually, not physically.

But he still died a physical death within 1,000 years and he lived 6,000 years ago. Right now the church age had been 2,000 years. That is what a dispensation is to measure an era in terms of 1,000 years. We are told that the 1,000 year reign of Christ will be a sabbath when man will rest from his works.

 

[Ace777]

" In the real world we know"

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

 

[AV1611VET]

But he still died a physical death within 1,000 years and he lived 6,000 years ago. Right now the church age had been 2,000 years. That is what a dispensation is to measure an era in terms of 1,000 years. We are told that the 1,000 year reign of Christ will be a sabbath when man will rest from his works.

I think you're getting the Millennium-Sabbath theory mixed up with Dispensation Theology.

In the Millenium-Sabbath theory, it was 2000 years from Adam to Abraham; two thousand years from Abraham to Christ; and two thousand years from Christ to today; then the Seventh Day (the 1000 year Millennium Reign begins).

Dispensation Theology is totally different.

 

[sjastro]

Things become somewhat more complicated when a thermodynamic system undergoes a change in entropy; the information becomes the number of possible protein folding pathways available when going from the initial state to the final state and is not necessarily proportional to the number of microstates which represents all possible configurations.

The mathematics is based on the use of Markov State Models as briefly explained in this video.

Since anything goes in this thread lets look at another form of "macro-evolution" AI.
Physicists and mathematicians have probably nothing to worry about losing their jobs at this stage.

AI learnt "something" from the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

In April of this year I asked Bing this applied mathematics question. Explain how the Schwarzschild metric when expressed in Droste-Hilbert coordinates results in the speed of light being anisotropic. Calculate the difference Δv between the radial and peripheral velocity of light at the Earth’s...

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AI learnt "something" from the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

In April of this year I asked Bing this applied mathematics question. Explain how the Schwarzschild metric when expressed in Droste-Hilbert coordinates results in the speed of light being anisotropic. Calculate the difference Δv between the radial and peripheral velocity of light at the Earth’s...

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Bing in the meantime had an amazing revelation and had the gall of giving me a lecture on my solution.

AI learnt "something" from the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

In April of this year I asked Bing this applied mathematics question. Explain how the Schwarzschild metric when expressed in Droste-Hilbert coordinates results in the speed of light being anisotropic. Calculate the difference Δv between the radial and peripheral velocity of light at the Earth’s...

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Alas it was false hope as it gave an idiotic answer to the same question later on.

AI learnt "something" from the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

In April of this year I asked Bing this applied mathematics question. Explain how the Schwarzschild metric when expressed in Droste-Hilbert coordinates results in the speed of light being anisotropic. Calculate the difference Δv between the radial and peripheral velocity of light at the Earth’s...

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In terms of general mathematics at high school level, AI is now on par with the brightest students on the planet but probably still well short of a Fields Medalist.

AI learnt "something" from the Physical & Life Sciences Forum.

Can you try this with asteroid Vesta? What would the Bing AI say? I am betting it would say "The image contains a gray item in the center. It could be a hail stone on a black table or a pebble". :) This image summarizes the deficiencies in AI image recognition capabilities, in particular the...

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This post leads to CASP which is the Critical Assessment of Structure Prediction which provides research groups with an opportunity to objectively test their structure prediction methods and delivers an independent assessment of the state of the art in protein structure modeling to the research community and software users.
In essence it is the Olympics for molecular biologists.

Prior to 2018 only humans participated, AI now dominates with scores inconceivable to humans a few years ago.
We humans have fallen behind on the evolutionary scale.

 

[AV1611VET]

Since anything goes in this thread lets look at another form of "macro-evolution" AI.

I didn't know macro-evolution came in different forms.

 

[Astrid]

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

So, all you need do is form an opinion
and it becomes fact.

 

[BCP1928]

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

What errors or mistakes are you talking about?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

There is no such thing as "atheist evolution."

The thing you seem to be referring to is called "biological evolution" or just "evolution".

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no such thing as "atheist evolution."

The thing you seem to be referring to is called "biological evolution" or just "evolution".

Which makes more sense:

1. Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

2. Evolution is the real world. Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.