Evidence for macro-evolution

[NxNW]

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

If that's the case, why would God have to intervene, if not to correct mistakes?

 

[Ace777]

If that's the case, why would God have to intervene, if not to correct mistakes?

We make mistakes that God has to fix. He cleans up after His children. It is difficult to prove a miracle because He restores everything back to normal and they way He intended for them to be. We have to show there was a problem that needed fixed and restored.

 

[Ace777]

There is no such thing as "atheist evolution."

It only exists in the imagination of atheists. If you did not have theism then you could not have atheism. They have to have something to be against or anti.

 

[NxNW]

We make mistakes that God has to fix. He cleans up after His children.

I mean mistakes in evolution. Why the need to intervene?

It is difficult to prove a miracle because He restores everything back to normal and they way He intended for them to be. We have to show there was a problem that needed fixed and restored.

An unanticipated problem? An omniscient being could have prevented it before it happened.

 

[NxNW]

It only exists in the imagination of atheists. If you did not have theism then you could not have atheism. They have to have something to be against or anti.

This is false. Atheists lack a belief in the supernatural, but we cannot oppose that which does not exist. Similarly, you don't oppose Zeus; you just don't believe in him.

 

[Astrid]

What errors or mistakes are you talking about?

Maybe it's that all quartz crysrals are perfectly
proportioned to the molecule. No irregularities
( errors ). We know they are all perfect because God is.

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

Actually...atheistic is not real, true.

But not because God.
It's because there's no such thing as "atheistic"
evolution. You just made that up. And enlist God
to support the falsehood.

How can you DO that?

 

[Ace777]

I mean mistakes in evolution. Why the need to intervene?

The mistakes are rare and they correct themselves.

An omniscient being could have prevented it before it happened.

He does because He can go back in time. He does not just heal memories. God has the solution for every problem and the answer for every question. God's ways are not our was. He does know how to rescue, save, heal and deliver people from death, hell & destruction. If they want to be healed and delivered. If we want to be a vessel for His Love.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's because there's no such thing as "atheistic" evolution.

Be careful of what you rail against, or you just might get your way.

Then you'll really be confused.

See Post 800.

 

[NxNW]

The mistakes are rare and they correct themselves.

So we seem to agree that evolution does not require supernatural intervention.

He does because He can go back in time. He does not just heal memories. God has the solution for every problem and the answer for every question. God's ways are not our was. He does know how to rescue, save, heal and deliver people from death, hell & destruction. If they want to be healed and delivered. If we want to be a vessel for His Love.

I think it will be difficult to establish all that.

 

[Ace777]

I think it will be difficult to establish all that.

Actually science is working on just that.

• Block universe theory
  Also known as eternalism or block time, this theory suggests that the universe is a four-dimensional block of spacetime that contains everything that has ever happened, including the past, present, and future, which are all equally real. In this theory, there is no "now" or present, and all moments are relative to each other within the three spatial dimensions and one time dimension. Some say this theory is a promising way to reconcile the cosmological view of time with everyday experience.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It only exists in the imagination of atheists. If you did not have theism then you could not have atheism. They have to have something to be against or anti.

Evolution has nothing to do with a belief or non-belief in a god.

Evolution is a science, not a religious position.

 

[dlamberth]

What errors or mistakes are you talking about?

I was wondering the same.

 

[Ace777]

Evolution has nothing to do with a belief or non-belief in a god.

Exactly and that is why God could have created the laws of physics.

 

[dlamberth]

Yes Theistic Evolution is the real world. Atheist Evolution is not real because God does not make errors or mistakes.

What is Theistic Evolution?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Exactly and that is why God could have created the laws of physics.

Gods are irrelevant to physics.

 

[Ace777]

Gods are irrelevant to physics.

We are talking about the precision of Physics and it follows that the Universe is very exact and precise.

 

[sjastro]

Actually science is working on just that.

• Block universe theory
  Also known as eternalism or block time, this theory suggests that the universe is a four-dimensional block of spacetime that contains everything that has ever happened, including the past, present, and future, which are all equally real. In this theory, there is no "now" or present, and all moments are relative to each other within the three spatial dimensions and one time dimension. Some say this theory is a promising way to reconcile the cosmological view of time with everyday experience.

Science cannot be used to prove or disprove the existence of God.

Now for the science that ugly word entropy comes into play again.
Our universe is not only metrically expanding but also accelerating which means galaxies can have recession velocities that can exceed the speed of light c relative to the observer; if it exceeds 2c signals from the galaxies can never reach the observer.
This means our observable universe has a particle horizon or barrier beyond which any object is causally disconnected from the observable universe.

Our observable universe is therefore a thermodynamically isolated system where entropy will always increase with time according to the second law of thermodynamics..
This defines the arrow of time as forward moving which is a problem with the Block universe as past present and future are equally real, it is difficult to explain why entropy increases in one direction (towards the future) and not the other (towards the past).

 

[Ace777]

Science cannot be used to prove or disprove the existence of God.

The discussion has to do with how accurate the laws of physics are.

 

[Ace777]

This defines the arrow of time as forward moving which is a problem with the Block universe as past present and future are equally real, it is difficult to explain why entropy increases in one direction (towards the future) and not the other (towards the past).

When Physics does not apply then we use Quantum Physics. This conversation does not exist if not for quantum physics.

In modern computers you need semiconductors, and the whole theory of solid state physics (band structures, doping, etc) is based on a foundation of quantum mechanics - since electrons in semiconducting solids behave in a manner that is more wave-like than particle-like, with each electron occupying its own distinct

 

[Hans Blaster]

We are talking about the precision of Physics and it follows that the Universe is very exact and precise.

As I said, no gods are used to study physics, or needed to explain it.