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Firstly, this applies to every single non believer. The world denies Christ, and yet so many seem to only address these verses when referring to the Jews.
Secondly, what does this mean for you ? What do you do with these verses ? If everyone who denies Christ is the antichrist, - do you cease from sharing the good news with them ? Do you cast them off them as doomed ? Beyond salvation ?
Thankfully, many Christians in Israel and who visit Israel want nothing more than for them to know their true Messiah.
One does not have to be a Jew to gain citizenship in Israel and become an "Israelite" anymore than one has to be a Catholic to live in Rome [tho being a Jew makes it easier to become a citizen of Israel]
I'm sorry I must have missed where you answered my question.
My wife and I help fund the ministry of two organizations which are taking the Gospel to modern Orthodox Jews, which is something much of the modern Church has ignored because of Dual Covenant Theology.
The meaning of 1 John 2:22-23 is clear to any unbiased witness.
Those who reject Christ, do not have a relationship with God.
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parousia70 said: ↑
Are you just making stuff up?
Here's the fact:
Israel has friendly, diplomatic relations with 163 of the 193 UN member states as of December 2018.
You are on a Christian forum, state in your identification that you are catholic, a Christian religion... ...........................
People are so quick to condemn this small country, as it searches to live peacefully and be left alone, that they won't even give them the right to protect themselves from obvious and random attacks on their innocent.
If this is so, than why do they require billions of dollars in US aide?
That is puzzling since they are such a prosperous country.
Interesting.Yes that is "puzzling" isn't it? LOL - Why do you think they are so "prosperous"? If you go back and start digging through the military history of the region; you'll quickly realize that Israel would not even exist if it wasn't for the US.
Palestinian Christians leaving their homeland due to persecution. The population of Palestinian Christians has dropped from 15% to 2%.
people level accusations against Israel.
Christians Discriminated Against by IsraelI need valid evidence that there is a real issue before I start a church prayer group for it.
How is This:
Not evidence of this:
Christians Discriminated Against by Israel
» Israel Is Not As Christian-Friendly As You Think– IMEMC News
Christians in Jerusalem warn of Israel attempts to take their land
Christians in the Holy Land feel abandoned by American evangelicals
Church on 'site of Jesus' crucifixion' closed in protest at Israeli 'persecution'
I've seen similar lists of links as these before. Sorry but a lot of them don't really wash when you reflect on the shortcomings of our own countries.
I'm heading home now so I'll come back to this later, but this caught my eye -
“The desecration of churches...includes smoking in the churches, littering the churches, taking dogs inside and entering in inappropriate manner of dress. Behavior such as this cannot be construed other than as a direct insult to the whole Christian world.”
- The desecration of Churches ?! - You know what happens in the UK now, - they turn them into bars. People dress VERY inappropriately, get blind drunk, take drugs, smoke and have sex in the toilets. In a Church.
The church in the West is on unstable, discriminated ground. However I'll still pray for the country, and it's leaders to make right decisions.
Maybe you would like to pray specifically for those Christians in the articles, God leads us to pray for those on our heart. It seems like they are on your heart. Pray for them, and for those who do wrong against them.
I'm still going to pray for those facing genocide as that's on my heart right now.
Interesting.
That reminds me of Deut 28 "head and tail" since 70ad..............
Deuteronomy 28:
1 'And it hath been, if thou dost hearken diligently to the voice of Jehovah thy God, to observe to do all His commands which I am commanding thee to-day, that Jehovah thy God hath made thee uppermost above all the nations of the earth,
13 ‘And Yahweh hath given thee for head, and not for tail; and thou hast been only above, and art not beneath, for thou dost hearken unto the commands of Jehovah thy God, which I am commanding thee to-day, to keep and to do,
15 'And it hath been, if thou dost not hearken unto the voice of Jehovah thy God to observe to do all His commands, and His statutes, which I am commanding thee to-day, that all these revilings have come upon thee, and overtaken thee:
43 The foreigner who is in the midst of you shall mount up above you higher and higher; and you shall come down lower and lower.
44 “He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him;
he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.
Isaiah 9:
14 Therefore the LORD will cut off head and tail from Israel, Palm branch and bulrush in one day.
15 The elder and honorable, he is the head; The prophet who teaches lies, he is the tail.
Interesting that both tail and false prophet are mentioned in Revelation:
"TAIL OF THE DRAGON" Revelation 12:4
Revelation 12:4
His tail drew a third of the stars of the heaven and threw them to the land. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.
Rev 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
C'mon Jack; read your Bible - John 15:14-16, Ephesians 1:11-14, 1 Peter 2:9-10. CHRISTIANS are the chosen people of God.I consider myself an evangelical. I send blessings to the Jews and all the civilians of Israel. I bless the Jews. They are God's chosen..
Correct. The Jewish State of Israel relies on their own strength, the Lord has helped them in the past, for His own reasons, but the Jews do not acknowledge this. They face Judgement and punishment and only a remnant will be saved. Romans 9:27Every time, and any time, that ANYONE attacks Israel during any of her three feast days, Bible students everywhere should be trumpeting the Biblical fact, that this proves, emphatically, and unequivocally, that Modern Geopolitical Israel is not the chosen people of God.
The people who say "watch Israel" make a valid point. There seems to be a lot of uncanny similarities between the 120 years of the Herodian reign and 120 years we are currently in of Zionistic resurgence.
Israel exists due to so many miracles.... especially in the time shortly after the were given statehood and, without organized military, were attacked from three sides and, not only defeated these foes but took large tracks of land.Ahhh but It is quite evident that God is NOT protecting them!
On 3-27-02, a suicide bomber blew himself, and at least 19 Israelis into eternity. What many may be missing--in fact, some will not want to hear--is that the attack, taking place on Passover, has tremendous theological implications.
In 1967 the Arab league, led by Egypt, attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, the
Day of Atonement. This is one of Israel's most holy days of the year. It seemed, in the first day or two, that Israel was doomed. However, that war lasted, due to Israel's amazing military prowess, only 6 Days. Millennialists hailed Israel's victory as a positive sign that Jehovah was protecting her, and that, of course, we must be living in the last days! Let's take a closer look.
Instead of being a proof that Modern Israel are God's chosen people, the Yom Kippur attack in 1967, and the attack on Passover on 3/27/02 prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Modern Israel is not in covenant relationship with Jehovah. We know this from scripture.
Read Exodus 34:23: "Three times in the year all your men shall appear before
the Lord, the Lord God of Israel [passover, pentecost, tabernacles]. For I will cast out the nations before you and enlarge your borders; neither will any man covet your land when you go up to appear before the Lord your God three times in the year." The promise here is simple and profound. As long as Israel was in covenant relationship with Jehovah, their enemies would not attack them during their holy feast days!
For 1500 years there were no attacks against Israel during her feast days [During the Mosaic Age]. However, the siege of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 took place, the city fell, during Pentecost. What are the implications of that attack in light of Exodus 34? The Seven Day War of 1967 took place on Yom Kippur, Israel's most Holy Day. What are the implications in light of Exodus 34? And the attack on Passover on 3-27-02. What are the ramifications of this attack, on Israel's Holy Day?
If Israel is still God's chosen people, that Palestinian bomber should never have been allowed by Jehovah to attack during the Passover. If Israel is still God's chosen people the attack of 1967 should never have happened. Instead of Israel's victory at that time being a sign of her elect status, it was, and is, a sign of the direct opposite. It proved, and proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Covenantal promise of Exodus 34 is no longer applicable! But if the Covenantal promise of Exodus 34 is no longer applicable, then the other promises of that Covenant, i.e., the promises of national restoration (e.g. Deuteronomy 30), are also now invalid, abrogated by Jehovah Himself.
Further, the attacks on Yom Kippur, and now Passover, also prove something else, a direct corollary to everything else. Either the Covenant promise of Exodus 34 is no longer valid, or, the people claiming to be Israel today are not the people of the Covenant of Exodus 34. If the Covenant of Exodus is still valid, but the people in Israel today were attacked in violation of Exodus 34, then what does it say about the identity of the people in Israel today? It says that they cannot be the people of the Covenant of Exodus 34!
Every time, and any time, that ANYONE attacks Israel during any of
her three feast days, Bible students everywhere should be trumpeting the
Biblical fact, that this proves, emphatically, and unequivocally, that Modern Geopolitical Israel is not the chosen people of God.
I can say I love my American neighbors to the south of Canada... does that mean I love people like Bundy or John Wayne Gracey?Even the Coverts like Rosanne Barr & Dr Laura Schelssenger?
Gentiles who willfully reject Jesus Christ in favor of converting to the religion of Talmudic Judaism suddenly become "God's Chosen"?
Really?
Actually, in their inception, the US did nothing. Israel was hung out to dry.Yes that is "puzzling" isn't it? LOL - Why do you think they are so "prosperous"? If you go back and start digging through the military history of the region; you'll quickly realize that Israel would not even exist if it wasn't for the US.
Thanks for that information.One does not have to be a Jew to gain citizenship in Israel and become an "Israelite" anymore than one has to be a Catholic to live in Rome [tho being a Jew makes it easier to become a citizen of Israel]
If a Jewish convert to Christianity [or vice versa] wants to continue under the OC Mosaic Law aka Judaism, I don't have a problem with that.
But that can be a topic for another thread............
How to Become an Israeli Citizen
As the only Jewish-majority state in the world, Israel is naturally a place where many Jews wish to immigrate and become citizens.............
Be born in Israel to an Israeli parent. One of the easiest ways to gain Israeli citizenship is by being born in Israel. If one or both of your parents is an Israeli citizen at the time of your birth, you are automatically granted citizenship.
Have Israeli citizens as parents. Even if you were not born in Israel, it is possible to become an Israeli citizen by birth if one or both of your parents is also an Israeli citizen.[1]
Be born in Israel with no other nationality. If you were born in Israel and have never been granted any other official nationality, you can acquire Israeli citizenship. To do so, you must apply for it between your 18th and 25th birthdays.[2]
Understand the Law of Return. The Law of Return is a rule enacted by the Israeli government in 1950 that allows all Jews, both ethnic and religious, to return to Israel as their homeland and gain citizenship.[3]
Rely on your Jewish heritage. If you're Jewish, which is defined as being born to a mother who is Jewish or having converted to Judaism, then there is not much that you need to do. Israel will welcome you with open arms. All you have to do is go there and formally request citizenship. [4]
YEP!You may be interested in the book "Against Our Better Judgment, The hidden history of how the U.S. was used to create Israel", by Alison Weir.
Page 11 of the book reveals a group of powerful Orthodox Jews in the U.S. who called themselves the "Parushim", which is the Hebrew word for "Pharisees".
One of them was a member of the U.S. Supreme Court.
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Actually, in their inception, the US did nothing. Israel was hung out to dry.
May I suggest that the US would not exist if it were not for the Jewish people?
My point was that Israel is a peace loving and accepting country.
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